Messigician
Senior Member
Brazilians with the most Champions League goals in history:
🇧🇷 43 - Neymar*
🇧🇷 31 - Rivaldo
🇧🇷 30 - Kaká
🇧🇷 28 - Vinícius Júnior*
🇧🇷 43 - Neymar*
🇧🇷 31 - Rivaldo
🇧🇷 30 - Kaká
🇧🇷 28 - Vinícius Júnior*
Neymar
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To be a clown? No thanks.
snowy
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MonteCuler
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Regarding the FIFPro list that @Temptation posted in Lewy thread, like I said I agree with majority of the list but the fact Neymar is excluded from top 20 players in 21st century is just crazy. Then when you look at the comments few people even complain about it.
The narrative of Ney being some kind of a failed talent is a big exaggeration of his underachievement. He could have potentially became a much greater footballer than he now is, but that doesn't neutralize how great he already is and how much he has achieved and contributed in his career.
He is a Santos legend, won them a Copa Libertadores trophy while also showing outragoue skill every week, becoming a superstar then leaving for massive money. In Barça he won us the treble being the best player that season along with Messi. His performances rarely short of impressive. He went to PSG and continued with it, even improving his general play. Massive effort in 2020 to win them CL with a masterclass in final only to be let down by stupid misses and his team's bozoism.
Constant carryjob of worst ever Selecao lineups to some kind of world cup relevance with ridiculous performances on the international stage, winning the confederation cup as well. People usually shamelessly point out how he won nothing for Brazil when it would take a miracle to do it with teammates he had (injury arguably stopped him from achieving that miracle in 2014). Then there is 2022 when he scored a clutch goal basically on his own only for his teammates to do everything in their power to fuck it up as quickly as possible.
Overall I have the impression as time goes by he's starting to get more and more underrated by the football world.
The narrative of Ney being some kind of a failed talent is a big exaggeration of his underachievement. He could have potentially became a much greater footballer than he now is, but that doesn't neutralize how great he already is and how much he has achieved and contributed in his career.
He is a Santos legend, won them a Copa Libertadores trophy while also showing outragoue skill every week, becoming a superstar then leaving for massive money. In Barça he won us the treble being the best player that season along with Messi. His performances rarely short of impressive. He went to PSG and continued with it, even improving his general play. Massive effort in 2020 to win them CL with a masterclass in final only to be let down by stupid misses and his team's bozoism.
Constant carryjob of worst ever Selecao lineups to some kind of world cup relevance with ridiculous performances on the international stage, winning the confederation cup as well. People usually shamelessly point out how he won nothing for Brazil when it would take a miracle to do it with teammates he had (injury arguably stopped him from achieving that miracle in 2014). Then there is 2022 when he scored a clutch goal basically on his own only for his teammates to do everything in their power to fuck it up as quickly as possible.
Overall I have the impression as time goes by he's starting to get more and more underrated by the football world.
Iniesta Ultra
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Saudi just pissed they didn't get their money's worth.
Fati_Future_BallonDor
Humble guy
Well said Monte, even with the short prime he had he is in my top5 of this generation, guy was just too good
Messigician
Senior Member
RAMÓN MARTÍNEZ, former technical secretary of Real Madrid:
🗣️ “Neymar spent 10 days training at Real Madrid’s academy when he was 13 years old. And, wow, he was an alien. He dribbled past everyone, and goal. Another play, and goal.
“Ney was something incredible. Everything was set with Neymar’s father: a monthly salary, registration, but one thing was missing — his grandparents lived in Brazil, and they needed to buy them a house that cost 60,000 euros.”
“The club didn’t agree, and the transfer fell through. The problem was that Florentino Pérez was no longer there. With him, Neymar wouldn’t have slipped away. Ney was 13 years old and was something incredible. I’ve never seen a case like him. Unfortunately, years later, he ended up playing for Barcelona. Perez never forgave himself or Barca for what happened ” 🤯
Wow the prince nearly wore white
🗣️ “Neymar spent 10 days training at Real Madrid’s academy when he was 13 years old. And, wow, he was an alien. He dribbled past everyone, and goal. Another play, and goal.
“Ney was something incredible. Everything was set with Neymar’s father: a monthly salary, registration, but one thing was missing — his grandparents lived in Brazil, and they needed to buy them a house that cost 60,000 euros.”
“The club didn’t agree, and the transfer fell through. The problem was that Florentino Pérez was no longer there. With him, Neymar wouldn’t have slipped away. Ney was 13 years old and was something incredible. I’ve never seen a case like him. Unfortunately, years later, he ended up playing for Barcelona. Perez never forgave himself or Barca for what happened ” 🤯
Wow the prince nearly wore white
Maradona37
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How can he not be top 20 of the 21st century, lol. Since he came onto the scene only Messi has been more talented than him. And it isn't like he's just a big talent who does fuck all. He fucked his career by going to PSG, yes, but he did enough at Santos and Barca (and in spells at PSG) to show what he is all about.
MonteCuler
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In 2026 I'd like to see Neymar's Brazil win it, even more than Spain. It looks impossible and it probably is. But things may change until then, who knows.
Brazil surely has the quality upfront. Vinicius, Rodrygo, Raphinha, Neymar, Endrick and Estevao when they develop will be machines too. Maybe more quality in attack than any other national team.
But there are no fighters in midfield and defence. Nobody who I can count to give his everything for Neymar in the world cup. To fight like they did for Messi last world cup.
They need a better coach who will motivate the players and tell them to wake the fuck up. This Dorival has no authority on his players, he looks lost. Currently they are no serious contenders but by then they might become. I hope that happens.
Brazil surely has the quality upfront. Vinicius, Rodrygo, Raphinha, Neymar, Endrick and Estevao when they develop will be machines too. Maybe more quality in attack than any other national team.
But there are no fighters in midfield and defence. Nobody who I can count to give his everything for Neymar in the world cup. To fight like they did for Messi last world cup.
They need a better coach who will motivate the players and tell them to wake the fuck up. This Dorival has no authority on his players, he looks lost. Currently they are no serious contenders but by then they might become. I hope that happens.
Maradona37
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At least it's in the Americas, which history tells us gives South American sides a better chance than when in Europe. Plus Brazil have already won the World Cup in the USA.
Yes, it's superstition and not much to hold on to, but it is better than nothing.
But I can see Brazil going a long time without winning the World Cup. If they don't win it next year then they'll have gone longer than they did between 1970 and 1994. And I can see that increasing.
They aren't producing as much talent anymore (certainly not at the level of before) and their players seem more 'Europeanised' but as cheap knock-offs of a European type player. Plus the game is just becoming increasingly more athletic and professional, which doesn't suit their samba style.
I always preferred Argentina but have a soft spot for Brazil too. Hope I am wrong but really wouldn't be surprised if we get to 2042 and they still haven't won a World Cup.
Messigician
Senior Member
Neymar will be retired by 2026 he doesn’t have much time left
soul24rage
Senior Member
If Neymar wins the WC, that would mean cunts like Vini Jr., Rodrygo and Endrick would win the WC too. I don't want to live in a world where these people win the World Cup and as much as I want Neymar wins the WC, I hope Brazil doesn't win in 2026.
Argentina 1st, then Spain 2nd.
Argentina 1st, then Spain 2nd.
soul24rage
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What I hope happens
2026 - Argentina
2030 - Spain
2034 - Portugal
2038 - France
2042 - Argentina
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