Liga Round 16: Barca - Girona 2-4

lucas24

Member
@serghei

Big chances tonight:
Barcelona 3 - Girona 4

But since you are the one whining like a 16yr old girl for ages that 'scoring goals win you leagues' 'not conceding wins you leagues' 'xG doesn't matter' etc, etc
and all that crap

You can taste your own medicine for once.
There was perhaps 30-15 in shots, but that was to be expected. Looking at the statistics before the match Barca needed 8 shots to score while Girona only needed 5.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Even in the conditions of a poor match, if the players don't fuck up, this match is a win.

But... the players fuck up this season on constant basis.

Like Christensen on 1st goal. Amateurish error. Don't tell me this is on Xavi.
 

Birdy

Senior Member
Aren't you the xG man?

It's about 4-2 in xG. This means according to chances created, Barca should have won the match, right?

Thing is Lewandowski, Gundogan and Raphinha had some abysmal finishing.

Yes I am still the xG man, and you don't know how to read xG statistics

xG sum says nothing. Break it down to big chances and then we can talk.

From several different models I have checked so far, the xG sum is roughly Barca 4-2.4 Girona
but the big chances are either the same (4 or 5 for each team depending on the model) or Girona having one more
 
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serghei

Senior Member
Can't be arsed frankly.

It's pretty simple for anyone that really cares to understand.

The team overperformed last season because of high levels of focus and ambition to win the title.

The title was won basically on defensive sacrifice in many games, narrow 1-0 wins galore. Keeping goals conceded to a minimum.

That declined this season, and in the absence of such fighting effort, quality should make a difference. Especially offensive quality.

The team doesn't have enough of that to win 2 back to back titles once the hunger to win took a hit.

Move on, accept it, and that's it.
 

Morten

Senior Member
Girona played very well, but if Barca weren't so wasteful, should at least have been a draw tbh, the score line is a bit flattering for Girona.
 

ajnotkeith

Senior Member
Serghei is right that we deserved more but it doesn't mean Xavi coached the game well or something.
Conceding 5 big chances in any game really isn't acceptable and you open yourself up to losing that way regardless of if you attack well.
 

Birdy

Senior Member
Can't be arsed frankly.

It's pretty simple for anyone that cares to understand.

The team overperformed last season because of high levels of focus and ambitions to win the title.

The title was won basically on high levels of defensive sacrifice in many games. Keeping games conceded to a minimum.

That declined this season, and in the absence of such fighting effort, quality should make a difference. Especially offensive quality.

The team doesn't have enough quality to win 2 back to back titles.

Move on, accept it, and that's it.

The team could walk back to back LL titles if it had a proper elite coach, whose level would match the one of the club, and not an apprentice learning his craft on the spot
 

Birdy

Senior Member
Serghei is right that we deserved more but it doesn't mean Xavi coached the game well or something.
Conceding 5 big chances in any game really isn't acceptable and you open yourself up to losing that way regardless of if you attack well.
Yes,
since he tried Pedri-FDJ-Gundo the md is more functional in creating.
But he is incapable of building a proper OOP structure as I explained in his thread
 

Loki

Well-known member
Statistics favor us, but that doesn't help of course if we need 15 shots for one goal. We play well most of the time, but our effectiveness is very worrying. If Barca wants to win something this season, they need to start scoring goals.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Statistics favor us, but that doesn't help of course if we need 15 shots for one goal. We play well most of the time, but our effectiveness is very worrying. If Barca wants to win something this season, they need to start scoring goals.

Seriously, why do you think teams wanted to get rid of Felix for example?

It's not because he is not talented. Even at Atletico he had games where he looked total class. But like what we see at Barcelona, after a great game, he has a game like today where he does only dumb shit.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Sure, Barca fans dream that, after he has an great game, this is gonna be the start of a new decade of dominance. Like when Dembele had a great game, we all said, that's it, now this new Dembele is gonna take over. He finally matured and gonna storm Europe.

Then 2 games later he trips himself and misses an empty net. Rinse and repeat. After 2-3 shit games, 2-3 months out, he comes back, he has another great game, and it's Groundhog Day time again. Before you know it, 4-5 years pass.

These are not top players. These are players top teams don't want to deal with. This is why they can be loaned by Barca for next to nothing.
 

KingLeo10

Senior Member
LMAO, now xG sum doesn't mean anything, it's about the big chances...

Xavi and the team, especially in finishing and defense had a bad outing. But Birdy will come here unhinged while dropping a parade for 5 W in 16 games Pochettino :lol:
 

Co0ter

Senior Member
Garcia was terrible for Barca though, was he not?

Guess there just is a system for him to thrive in now, and that system wouldn't be there if you brought him back.
Imagine having a system though. An organized set up where players know what is expected of them and can practice and thrive in their role.

It makes medicore players like Garcia play better than they are.

Meanwhile, a lack of structure or system can lead to good players looking below average or awful.

This is Barcelona under Xavi.

Hard to believe people like Serghei, Jamcock etc fail to understand this or are straight up delusional about it.
 

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