Birdy
Senior Member
Stevie G should be there as well. Scandal he is missing...
Let's talk about Xavi's replacement (2024)
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Stevie G should be there as well. Scandal he is missing...
Raketa10
Senior Member
People are dumb as fuck. Klopp said that he won't coach anyone next season and Arteta clearly stated that he isn't leaving Arsenal in summer. However, they are first and forth on the list.
Can we at least talk about realistic options and not people who most certainly won't come here in the summer?
Birdy
Senior Member
@BlxckNews
EXCLUSIVE
Barça already has an option as a favorite to be the next coach. Laporta has been speaking with Guardiola in recent days and Pep has put the name of Roberto De Zerbi on the table. The Manchester City coach believes that the Brighton coach is the best possible coach to take the current squad of the Blaugrana club and who would be able to get the most out of it. Laporta likes this name quite a bit and Guardiola's recommendation tips the balance in his favor. Soon, the club will move to find out the availability and predisposition of the Italian coach to sit on the culé bench.
EXCLUSIVE
Barça already has an option as a favorite to be the next coach. Laporta has been speaking with Guardiola in recent days and Pep has put the name of Roberto De Zerbi on the table. The Manchester City coach believes that the Brighton coach is the best possible coach to take the current squad of the Blaugrana club and who would be able to get the most out of it. Laporta likes this name quite a bit and Guardiola's recommendation tips the balance in his favor. Soon, the club will move to find out the availability and predisposition of the Italian coach to sit on the culé bench.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
BlxckNews posts wrong shit all the time then just carries on doing it and ignores what got wrong.
'An option to be a favourite'.. covering all bases there.
'An option to be a favourite'.. covering all bases there.
Givenchy
Senior Member
Whilst it's most likely bs, the idea of Laporta asking Pep for advice.. whilst hes manager of City, the team that fleeced us for Ferran, is both hilarious and pathetic.
Is Pep the shadow sports director or something?
Wouldn't trust a single word from Pep. He even managed to bait United into signing Maguire
fergus90
Senior Member
De Zerbi's Brighton have been shite last few months. 3 wins in the last 16 games and he makes 5 or 6 changes to the team every game.
Brighton have had injuries this year but he has a fetish for rotation even when they didn't.
Would last a few months at a 'top' club. I think he's a decent coach but can't see him being successful when the pressure for trophies exists.
Brighton have had injuries this year but he has a fetish for rotation even when they didn't.
Would last a few months at a 'top' club. I think he's a decent coach but can't see him being successful when the pressure for trophies exists.
I like De Zerbi but he lacks big club experience and I feel his personality is not suited to the pressure cooker environment here. Tuchel and Flick are my first choices. If nothing else I hope they rattle a few cages and give our players something to think about, especially in terms of physical fitness and intensity.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
It just shows the lack of structure and leadership from the top that they allowed Xavi to have backroom staff.
Laporta filling the club with friends and family and allows Xavi to do the same.
Most unprofessional top club going time and again with presidents that see it as a political position rather than running club way it should be.
Laporta filling the club with friends and family and allows Xavi to do the same.
Most unprofessional top club going time and again with presidents that see it as a political position rather than running club way it should be.
Don Juan Laporta Estruch
Well-known member
That list has nothing to do with people being dumb as fuck or with people at all.People are dumb as fuck. Klopp said that he won't coach anyone next season and Arteta clearly stated that he isn't leaving Arsenal in summer. However, they are first and forth on the list.
It's a list comprised from multi billion dollar betting companies who spend tens of millions to specialise in making the correct odds for specific events, so that they don't end up losing a shit load of money.
As such, it's as accurate a list as you will find anywhere, as to who will be the next Barca manager.
Messi983
Senior Member
Marcelo Gallardo anyone? He's just getting experience in a top 5 league now so he'll be ready by summer.
That said I have a very sneaky suspicion we'll end up with Sergio Conceicao who will leave Porto when his contract expires according to Portuguese media. Don't ask me why but just think he's much more likely than most people or odds (not even amogst the top 10 candidates as listed above) believe. Represented by Gestifute/Mendes and close to Deco so at least I believe he'll be very seriously considered even if we decide to go for someone else in the end.
Wouldn't be my prefered choice but wouldn't hate it either. I think tactical wise he's a very good coach and from what I've seen his Porto team is usually well organized. But there were moments were emotions got the worst out of him which is not really a good sign for coaches who I prefer to stay cool-headed (ofc easier said than done) in tough times because that reflects on the way their teams play as well.
It's fine to get more passion and intensity (something we didn't really have since Lucho) into the team but we won't suddenly turn into Atletico (well, Atletico of old, Cholo has changed his approach quite a lot in recent years, probably because "thugs" like Godin, Gabi, Mario Suarez, Juanfran, Diego Costa,... don't grow on trees and others like Griezmann, Saul and Koke are 8-10 years older now). We need to find the right balance between playing hard and playing smart. And it's the second part which we are lacking under Xavi (surprising given he's one of the smartest players I've seen but don't want to turn this post/thread into a debate of Xavi's shortcomings which we all more or less know) so new coach should especially improve that (tactical) aspect of the game.
I think Conceicao could get the players and most fanst to "buy into his methods" but would take time. And time is always limited here. He also looks like a proper cunt complaining about everything (so people who don't like Xavi for those reasons won't like him either) and someone who local media won't like much either. Which ofc won't matter as long as he'd have his team play well and get results but if/when things would go wrong could easy see him getting the Koeman treatment. Big difference though is he'd have support of Laporta/Deco as their guy and not a leftover from a previous board. Had a row with coaches like Pep and Tuchel too IIRC so another thing to consider.
Also don't know if he's the best coach to develop young talents we already have at the club. Not following Porto closely but from what I've seen his teams always looked to be quite veteran heavy. Could be getting wrong impressions by just seeing 40 yo Pepe still being a starter for them though. No idea how much impact he had on transfers there but it's his 7th season at the club so I guess squad is built in his own image. Or could be people above him decided to sell some of the better young players like Luis Diaz, Vitinha, Vieira etc. when they received good offers and then he had to play who he had at his disposal.
tl; dr Conceicao wouldn't be the worst choice and there is a lot to like from a pure coaching perspective but his personality might be a turn off and not the best fit for the club in current state. But at the same time is maybe time we stop being "choir boys" (If I use BBZ's words) trying to do the same things again and again while expecting different results and become more cuntish (we have players like Gavi and Vitor who have some attitude in them despite being young) and this younger version of poor man's Mou could be just the right man for that.
That said I have a very sneaky suspicion we'll end up with Sergio Conceicao who will leave Porto when his contract expires according to Portuguese media. Don't ask me why but just think he's much more likely than most people or odds (not even amogst the top 10 candidates as listed above) believe. Represented by Gestifute/Mendes and close to Deco so at least I believe he'll be very seriously considered even if we decide to go for someone else in the end.
Wouldn't be my prefered choice but wouldn't hate it either. I think tactical wise he's a very good coach and from what I've seen his Porto team is usually well organized. But there were moments were emotions got the worst out of him which is not really a good sign for coaches who I prefer to stay cool-headed (ofc easier said than done) in tough times because that reflects on the way their teams play as well.
It's fine to get more passion and intensity (something we didn't really have since Lucho) into the team but we won't suddenly turn into Atletico (well, Atletico of old, Cholo has changed his approach quite a lot in recent years, probably because "thugs" like Godin, Gabi, Mario Suarez, Juanfran, Diego Costa,... don't grow on trees and others like Griezmann, Saul and Koke are 8-10 years older now). We need to find the right balance between playing hard and playing smart. And it's the second part which we are lacking under Xavi (surprising given he's one of the smartest players I've seen but don't want to turn this post/thread into a debate of Xavi's shortcomings which we all more or less know) so new coach should especially improve that (tactical) aspect of the game.
I think Conceicao could get the players and most fanst to "buy into his methods" but would take time. And time is always limited here. He also looks like a proper cunt complaining about everything (so people who don't like Xavi for those reasons won't like him either) and someone who local media won't like much either. Which ofc won't matter as long as he'd have his team play well and get results but if/when things would go wrong could easy see him getting the Koeman treatment. Big difference though is he'd have support of Laporta/Deco as their guy and not a leftover from a previous board. Had a row with coaches like Pep and Tuchel too IIRC so another thing to consider.
Also don't know if he's the best coach to develop young talents we already have at the club. Not following Porto closely but from what I've seen his teams always looked to be quite veteran heavy. Could be getting wrong impressions by just seeing 40 yo Pepe still being a starter for them though. No idea how much impact he had on transfers there but it's his 7th season at the club so I guess squad is built in his own image. Or could be people above him decided to sell some of the better young players like Luis Diaz, Vitinha, Vieira etc. when they received good offers and then he had to play who he had at his disposal.
tl; dr Conceicao wouldn't be the worst choice and there is a lot to like from a pure coaching perspective but his personality might be a turn off and not the best fit for the club in current state. But at the same time is maybe time we stop being "choir boys" (If I use BBZ's words) trying to do the same things again and again while expecting different results and become more cuntish (we have players like Gavi and Vitor who have some attitude in them despite being young) and this younger version of poor man's Mou could be just the right man for that.
Fati_Future_BallonDor
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Let's be realistic guys, the best guy from the available coaches is Flick....
Flick is a very strict guy, yeah gis German nt stint was crap but he could not coach them everyday like in club football. Im sure he would be incredible here.
Flick is a very strict guy, yeah gis German nt stint was crap but he could not coach them everyday like in club football. Im sure he would be incredible here.
Fati_Future_BallonDor
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