La Liga 2019/20
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El Gato
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That's all you got? I was hoping for evidence for your claims.
Still got some outstanding things to clear up BTW, in case you forgot. But don't worry, I'm keeping track of what you claim and back up vs the rest.
Haven't mentioned or lamented bias ONCE with respect to Barcelona fans.
Stick to subject at hand.
Evidence?
Still got some outstanding things to clear up BTW, in case you forgot. But don't worry, I'm keeping track of what you claim and back up vs the rest.
Biased to the teeth Madrid fan lamenting about bias from Barcelona fans on Barcaforum and demanding proof. Most pointless occupation on forums since the Internet was invented.
Haven't mentioned or lamented bias ONCE with respect to Barcelona fans.
Stick to subject at hand.
Evidence?
serghei
Senior Member
I know.
Maybe you'll meet Benitez some day, and he can list you the facts from his sheet, and you can ask him for proof.
Centauri B
New member
There has been an absurd & unprecedented string of highly biased and intentional decisions that have determined the winner of La Liga 2019/20:
a) Perfectly legit Valencia goal chalked off for imaginary offside at 0-0 against Real Madrid.
b) Perfectly legit Real Sociedad goal vs Real Madrid chalked off for imaginary reason, would have been 1-1.
c) Benzema handballs, then scores for 2-0. Ref and VAR pretend to be blind.
d) Phantom penaldo awarded for RM at 0-0 vs Sociedad.
e) Phantom penaldo awarded for RM vs Getafe at 0-0 at the 79th minute.
f) Phantom penaldo awarded to RM vs Bilbao at 0-0 at the 71st minute.
g) Phantom penaldo awarded to Atleti vs Barca to make the score 1-1.
h) Even though above penaldo is saved by Ter Stegen, the ref orders a replay for a GK infringement that always takes place to said degree (if not far worse)
i) Another phantom penaldo awarded to Atleti vs Barca at 2-1.
j) Clear penalty on Pique is ignored by the ref vs Atleti with the score at 1-1.
k) Phantom free-kick awarded to Celta Vigo at the 88th minute on the edge of the box withe the score at 1-2, the phantom free-kick results to a painful draw for Barca.
a) Perfectly legit Valencia goal chalked off for imaginary offside at 0-0 against Real Madrid.
b) Perfectly legit Real Sociedad goal vs Real Madrid chalked off for imaginary reason, would have been 1-1.
c) Benzema handballs, then scores for 2-0. Ref and VAR pretend to be blind.
d) Phantom penaldo awarded for RM at 0-0 vs Sociedad.
e) Phantom penaldo awarded for RM vs Getafe at 0-0 at the 79th minute.
f) Phantom penaldo awarded to RM vs Bilbao at 0-0 at the 71st minute.
g) Phantom penaldo awarded to Atleti vs Barca to make the score 1-1.
h) Even though above penaldo is saved by Ter Stegen, the ref orders a replay for a GK infringement that always takes place to said degree (if not far worse)
i) Another phantom penaldo awarded to Atleti vs Barca at 2-1.
j) Clear penalty on Pique is ignored by the ref vs Atleti with the score at 1-1.
k) Phantom free-kick awarded to Celta Vigo at the 88th minute on the edge of the box withe the score at 1-2, the phantom free-kick results to a painful draw for Barca.
FinBarcelonafan
Well-known member
Good job collecting weird things. Something is messed up with these for sure.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
That list is severly biased and blatantly wrong on a lot of them.
About only dodgy decisions were the Ramos pen not given, the MATS save and the offside v Sociedad.
Even then Messi got soft pen in last few games and Real were not given a stonewall pen vs Espanyol.
Real have been on correct side of decisions but nowhere near that list since restart.
If count the Rafinha dive count every dive in every match.
serghei
Senior Member
About 4-5 of those decisions went Madrid's way. The issue is those decisions were key for their narrow wins. When there are big errors, in games ending with 1 goal margin wins, those decisions influence the title fight, when it's this close.
It happened before in 2016-17. In both this league and that league, which are the last two Madrid La Liga wins, they made the difference massively pushed by the refs in very close games on tough stadiums to win, intentionally or not. This was coupled with the opposite happening to Barcelona.
The referees role was so big, that if the decisions were the opposite, we'd be leading the table now.
You're talking about Barca winning vs Celta and Atletico Madrid. And Madrid losing points vs both Sociedad and vs Bilbao. Point is we've been robbed in our tough games, while Madrid have been helped. This has decided the title fight in favor of Madrid.
It happened before in 2016-17. In both this league and that league, which are the last two Madrid La Liga wins, they made the difference massively pushed by the refs in very close games on tough stadiums to win, intentionally or not. This was coupled with the opposite happening to Barcelona.
The referees role was so big, that if the decisions were the opposite, we'd be leading the table now.
You're talking about Barca winning vs Celta and Atletico Madrid. And Madrid losing points vs both Sociedad and vs Bilbao. Point is we've been robbed in our tough games, while Madrid have been helped. This has decided the title fight in favor of Madrid.
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El Gato
Villarato!
He hasn't provided anything, but his own recollection of events without any evidence. I can easily make a similar list.
a) Mallorca 0-1 October 2019 - no penalty given when Brahim is pulled by a Mallorca defender on a cross
b) Betis 0-0 November 2019 - no handball given after Benzema crosses in
c) December Clasico - no penalty when Varane is kicked on the thigh inside the box
d) December Clasico - no penalty given when Varane is taken down by Rakitić inside the box
e) Valladolid 1-0 January 2020 - no penalty given when Rodrygo is taken down inside the box
etc etc can easily find more.
Who are you going to believe?
Which ones. Prove it. Otherwise bollocks.
Bollocks. Prove it.
Prove it.
All decisions in that game were correct.
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serghei
Senior Member
We're talking about post lockdown dude. There were errors going both ways before. Nothing that stood out. But since lock-down? Madrid got almost all close calls being made going their way, especially in their tough away games. Even some hilarious ones. And we got the opposite, almost all close ones were given to the opponents, even on Camp Nou.
But why do I even bother... it's like talking to a brick wall.
Madrid got almost all close calls being made going their way, especially in their tough away games. Even some hilarious ones. And we got the opposite, almost all close ones were given to the opponents, even on Camp Nou.But why do I even bother... it's like talking to a brick wall.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
That is the point.
No need to embelish on decisions that were perfectly fine.
Real pen v Sociedad was stonewall as were the Atletico pens v Barca etc. Pen for Real v Getafe was correct as was pen v Bilbao.
The big decisions are worthy talking points and definitely decide games but look out for the more subtle bias. When Real last won the league I watched a fair few of their games, particularly the last half of the season and the referees really helped Real but not just with big calls, they disrupt the flow of the opponent again and again. I remember sitting their watching matches swearing at the tv lol the amount of times the refs call an absurd foul just as madrid's opponents were starting a dangerous counter attack. They would then not call a foul the opposite way when madrid were on a dangerous counter. It's the little stuff for me that drains the opponents morale and energy all game and then maybe on top of that you get the big decision which really puts the game to bed.
We have a bit of this as well for sure, it's probably more to do with the big teams vs the little. From a barca (and admittedly bias perspective) it did seem like Madrid's last league came from big decisions going wrong and also all of the little decisions that halted their opponents progress in a game.
We have a bit of this as well for sure, it's probably more to do with the big teams vs the little. From a barca (and admittedly bias perspective) it did seem like Madrid's last league came from big decisions going wrong and also all of the little decisions that halted their opponents progress in a game.
El Gato
Villarato!
There's no point talking about perspectives. Just look at the data, replays, gifs. This discussion is utterly void without evidence, which in today's game everyone can collect. And if you don't have it, shut your mouth about it until you do. Anytime anyone will say something about big decisions influencing the title for Madrid, it needs to be mercilessly checked and cross-referenced with decisions in favour of Barcelona. Nothing else suffices and every argument made without data is null and void.
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