João Félix
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Joan
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A few weeks ago his name was brought up.
Leo_Messi
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https://www.mundodeportivo.com/futb...46279449697/joao-felix-fichaje-barcelona.html
"Desde hace tiempo" (for quite a while) moreover.
A goal or an assist every 96 minutes on average so far in his 12 appearances. Buyout clause of €120 million. Can play as a left winger too. Ticks many of the boxes of a future left winger for us in a 4-3-3. Because playing the enormous €160 million flop and snail that is Coutinho on this position is a waste of space and oxygen. Should never happen again.
DonAndres
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Haven't watched him live but in highlights his dribbling looks very reckless and he shows too much of the ball to the defender as well as questionable footwork. You can see the dribble moves that he barely pulls off and can tell that largely have a very low % probability of success. He looks very talented for sure, but raw as hell.
Stats back this up as he averages 5 turnovers per 90 in Liga Nos and 4 in the CL (1 appearance) with only 1 dribble per game. It looks worse than it is because many top strikers do average a high amount of turnovers, but I don't even know if Felix really plays like a 9 or even a mobile 9 that often. Turnovers accumulate more when you're a striker playing around CB's in a more crowded area.
For upwards of 60-70m and the fact that he's only 19 and very raw, it doesn't look like the best deal out there IMO for our timeline. The profile we need is that of a mobile 9, much moreso than a goalscoring winger who may or may not be good off ball. Also, we've been chasing players who are young/energetic but can contribute at a high level from day 1 such as Dembele/Arthur/FDJ. I'd rather get a striker who is cheaper and proven to be productive at the top level in some way.
To me, Jovic still looks like the best deal as I haven't seen price estimations go above 40m for him and he's scoring at will in the Buli/Europa. Werner is more proven, but we'll have to pay a huge sum for him and get in a lengthy bidding war, as well as the fact that he's shown to struggle in non-counterattacking systems that don't afford lots of space. Jovic is also perfectly 2 footed, very mobile, great off ball instincts. He's not a do or die prospect that we absolutely need to get but I don't see that many better options in terms of quality/price ratio that fit well and can contribute as a backup attacker immediately. But there may well be better options out there that I don't know of.
Stats back this up as he averages 5 turnovers per 90 in Liga Nos and 4 in the CL (1 appearance) with only 1 dribble per game. It looks worse than it is because many top strikers do average a high amount of turnovers, but I don't even know if Felix really plays like a 9 or even a mobile 9 that often. Turnovers accumulate more when you're a striker playing around CB's in a more crowded area.
For upwards of 60-70m and the fact that he's only 19 and very raw, it doesn't look like the best deal out there IMO for our timeline. The profile we need is that of a mobile 9, much moreso than a goalscoring winger who may or may not be good off ball. Also, we've been chasing players who are young/energetic but can contribute at a high level from day 1 such as Dembele/Arthur/FDJ. I'd rather get a striker who is cheaper and proven to be productive at the top level in some way.
To me, Jovic still looks like the best deal as I haven't seen price estimations go above 40m for him and he's scoring at will in the Buli/Europa. Werner is more proven, but we'll have to pay a huge sum for him and get in a lengthy bidding war, as well as the fact that he's shown to struggle in non-counterattacking systems that don't afford lots of space. Jovic is also perfectly 2 footed, very mobile, great off ball instincts. He's not a do or die prospect that we absolutely need to get but I don't see that many better options in terms of quality/price ratio that fit well and can contribute as a backup attacker immediately. But there may well be better options out there that I don't know of.
Jovic might be the best deal but I simply don’t think he suits our playing style. He is scoring in the BL but so are Paco. They are poachers.
Our strikers should be able to dribble, create space for himself, be good with the ball and excellent technique. Suárez plays some amazing passes/assists here and there. Jovic isn’t that type of player.
It’s early about Felix but it’s good we are monitoring him. If he is the next superstar I don’t care if he is 80m+. But it’s way to early so conclude anything about him. What I can say is that I like his profile more than that of Jovic
Our strikers should be able to dribble, create space for himself, be good with the ball and excellent technique. Suárez plays some amazing passes/assists here and there. Jovic isn’t that type of player.
It’s early about Felix but it’s good we are monitoring him. If he is the next superstar I don’t care if he is 80m+. But it’s way to early so conclude anything about him. What I can say is that I like his profile more than that of Jovic
DonAndres
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Jovic is not similar at all to the likes of Paco or Icardi, I don't know where this narrative began. Many people who watch him regularly say great things about his technique and versatility. His dribbling style also seems perfect for that of a striker, good with his back to goal and shielding the ball, and a good/soft touch to turn out of pressure. I can't personally vouch for his dribbling as elite or anything, but other people who watch him a lot readily do so. Here's one article:
https://totalfootballanalysis.com/p...kfurt-bundesliga-tactical-analysis-statistics
He has been compared to Falcao and Suarez, not Paco/Icardi/Mandzukic/etc.
As for Felix, how can you possibly know if he's the next superstar? He looks very raw, which raises doubts about his ability to be useful as soon as we get him (which we need, seeing how wildly inconsistent Suarez has been). We also probably won't be able to get him this summer, as a 60m bid has already been rejected and he's only just started playing for the first team.
His profile as well doesn't stand out that much. We don't know how competent he is with his back to goal, or how good he is off the ball. His dribbling in videos looks very uncontrolled and potentially sloppy. He pulled off those impressive plays, but many of them don't look repeatable/consistent and more likely to fail than not doing so. You can't try ridiculous nutmegs/backheels so frequently in duels, and he looks like he's about to lose his balance half the time he's dribbling in highlights and takes the full brunt of pressure more often than evading it.
Porto is an obvious favourite. Only 3 draws in the last 22 games. 2 of them in away games for the League (Sporting a title contender and Guimaraes the 6th place. In this last one Porto was very dominant but missed chances).
2 reasons why the odd is 1.50: the injury of Marega, Porto´s best striker this season and Moreirense is 5th place and has won last 6 out of 7 at home (mostly average teams).
Even so anything else besides a Porto victory would be a very big surprise.
Leo_Messi
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Glad that I skipped that bet and settled for the Marseille away win (1.85) against Dijon! Horrible football, horrible performance by Porto and horrible pitch. Benfica must be really bad this season for this Porto team to be 3 points ahead. Most likely less after the game ends in 10 minutes.
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