Hans-Dieter Flick

[jamrock]

Flick did the same with numerous players too:

Raphinha: Half the fanbase wanted him gone when Flick came in. Only a decent winger before Flick.

Ferran: Was a meme before Flick.

Inigo: Bang average career.

Casado: Unproven kid.

De Jong: Half the fanbase was against him.

Eric: Crap before Flick.

Rashford: United fans wanted him out. Early signs are positive under Flick.

If Flick had anywhere near Lucho's budget, he'd get a world class CB for his system and better squad depth in general.

Flick won a domestic treble and nearly reached a CL final in his first season with no transfer budget whilst playing the most entertaining Football in the world.

Not sure what's your point here tbh and how that is a reply to what I said.

PS, Enrique has no WC CBs..


The point WAS that the team as is, is good enough to win everything as it has shown, it's just about the fine details and that gab isn't about WC CBs, it's about tactical adjustments


Didn't think I had to spell it out like that, but I guess I did.

 

[jamrock]

I think its both. Overall QSG has a better roster than Barca ( and Madrid ). While tactically they completely eat away both clubs. As seen y-day. Lucho has done exceptional job, honestly.

They definitely have a better squad, but yesterday they played the C front line and still cooked us, because Ramos and Kang are usual the back up and subs.

One of the kids the commentator said had not scored since last June if memory serves and the other was even fresher

 

[Temptation]

They definitely have a better squad, but yesterday they played the C front line and still cooked us, because Ramos and Kang are usual the back up and subs.

One of the kids the commentator said had not scored since last June if memory serves and the other was even fresher

Fair point

 

[NKMaribor]

They definitely have a better squad, but yesterday they played the C front line and still cooked us, because Ramos and Kang are usual the back up and subs.

One of the kids the commentator said had not scored since last June if memory serves and the other was even fresher

Flick needs to realize that if it did not work last season when Barca had it essentially written in the stars to reach finale; it definitely wont work this season. Garcia while being an upgrade, is not enough considering tactically this is the same 24/25 Barca. While others have bulked up.

As for QSG. Those two solid CBs had two terminators alongside, with quality midfield and Barcola upfront. Still enough quality to do damage.

What exactly have some of you been expecting? Another La Liga tier game? C`mon.

 

[jamrock]

Flick needs to realize that if it did not work last season when Barca had it essentially written in the stars to reach finale; it definitely wont work this season. Garcia while being an upgrade, is not enough considering tactically this is the same 24/25 Barca. While others have bulked up.

As for QSG. Those two solid CBs had two terminators alongside, with quality midfield and Barcola upfront. Still enough quality to do damage.

What exactly have some of you been expecting? Another La Liga tier game? C`mon.

I won't lie, I did think we would win given there absences.

I fully fit PSG vs a fully for us, I stated many times they are cooking us.

 

[Gaudi]

My biggest concern from last year remains: we either destroy opponents or loose, no middle ground where we suffer but win. PSG is maybe the best team currently but teams like Lpool would also hurt as easily. Those compact, dynamic teams.
I don't like that stubbornness, for example we can accept that some teams are better or currently better, but I feel like if we met again we will play the same. I don't remember last time RM won CL and I even rated them among top 5 clubs in competition, Flick needs some pragmatism, for god sake, it is like child being super stubborn. For example, yesterday, you can see second half if slipping away from you, ok: defend, play deep and grind. It will be difficult but we all seen it 1000 times, one team attacking, having a control and simple counter and you our out. Especially in later stages, we need that extra weapon, extra plan. We simply won't demolish everyone on our path but with some B plan you don't even need to be the best team to win tournament like competition.

 

[jamrock]

He had plan A and plan A+.

No plan B, lewa and going direct is the only way we've shown so far that we can the PSG press.

Will he ever do that? I doubt.

Kinda respect it too, but as a coach you need to be more flexible, time will tell

 

[Porque]

He had plan A and plan A+.

No plan B, lewa and going direct is the only way we've shown so far that we can the PSG press.

Will he ever do that? I doubt.

Kinda respect it too, but as a coach you need to be more flexible, time will tell

Do you think we draw yesterday's game without going Casado-Bernal in midfield for the final 10 minutes?

EDIT

PsG were no doubt the better team that second half. But those last 15 minutes with both sides subs turned into one weird ICC friendly in the US.

Bernal with Casado, who was already not performing is what lost the game in the end. Both had no impact and as a tandem no positional sense.

I guess Flick played the margins with one eye on the weekend and thought he could rest Pedri, when he probably shouldn't have. Despite being tired.

 

[jamrock]

Do you think we draw yesterday's game without going Casado-Bernal in midfield for the final 10 minutes?

EDIT

PsG were no doubt the better team that second half. But those last 15 minutes with both sides subs turned into one weird ICC friendly in the US.

Bernal with Casado, who was already not performing is what lost the game in the end. Both had no impact and as a tandem no positional sense.

I guess Flick played the margins with one eye on the weekend and thought he could rest Pedri, when he probably shouldn't have. Despite being tired.

That's a good point, but with how PSG was dominating our Midfield even with Pedri I'm not so sure.

I do agree that those two added nothing and casado made a critical mistake that PSG didn't take advantage of.

But I still think we would lose because even with Pedri on, they had the significant advantage in Midfield and their subs added even more to the game.

The critical moment for us to get something from the game was the Mendes red card, which 100% should have been a second yellow, maybe we go on to win or draw then.

But it's not so much the result for me, as the performance.

 

[jairzinho]

Do you think we draw yesterday's game without going Casado-Bernal in midfield for the final 10 minutes?

EDIT

PsG were no doubt the better team that second half. But those last 15 minutes with both sides subs turned into one weird ICC friendly in the US.

Bernal with Casado, who was already not performing is what lost the game in the end. Both had no impact and as a tandem no positional sense.

I guess Flick played the margins with one eye on the weekend and thought he could rest Pedri, when he probably shouldn't have. Despite being tired.

The Bernal sub and the timing of it was bizarre. Bringing on a player, an 18 yr old at that, who has barely played in a year to see the game out against a team like PSG was criminal. Really weird decision making from Flick there. If anything Eric should have stayed on and moved to DM.

 

[-_- RandomUser -_-]

So much misery and crying in this forum.

 

[Birdy]

Xavi’s 3-2 is still the best CL win v Lucho’s PSG in last 2 and some seasons.

Xavi haters will find this hard to stomach

With the slight difference that that PSG was not the same team as this PSG.
Less cohesion, less positional rotations, their tactical development was midway

 

[Birdy]

Joan Garcia from what he has shown this season would have helped immensely.

Probably would have saved the goals too, but it's not good to go down that path generally.

Yup.

People misunderstood what I wrote, I am not advocating hoofball.

We partly did it and broke Atalanta's ultra-agressive press all over the pitch last January, that's how we scored the goals that night..

It is something we can do, even more with Joan between the goalposts

 

[Don Juan Laporta Estruch]

Let's face it, that back 5 , including goalkeeper, are as bad as the back 5 that started in the 8 2 loss Vs Bayern.

Despite that, Don Hansi has done so well, that he has us up there as favourites amongst some bookies for the UCL.

I've never been one to think we can win this yet, with no money to spend, and definitely not in that shit stadium with such shit atmosphere. Passionate fans in the Camp Nou could possibly bridge the gap ( If you actually let them in the stadium ).

Sit back, be rational and realise that Hansi is still doing a lot of the heavy lifting. Under other coaches, we would be humiliated, maybe more than once, with that defence. And it hasn't happened ...... Yet.

 

[jamrock]

Next time we face them I want to see

Kounde Araujo Christensen Balde.

Kounde getting shitted on now, but I don't want to see Garcia against a fully fit PSG front line.

That plus we play more direct and we will have a better chance, so that means lewa starts.

Still leaves us with olmo situation, maybe play raphinha there, but we need his defensive shift on the wings or hope rashford improves that as the season progresses.

Odds are they still beat us, but those changes will give us a better chance. 70-30/60-40.