Hans-Dieter Flick

Hansi Flick - how do we rate him?


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ajnotkeith

Senior Member
Hats off to Luis Enrique for what he's done with this PSG side, but it's undeniably easier to have your players press relentlessly, play like demons, and stay injury-free when you've basically wrapped up your domestic competitions months in advance. It's not really fair to compare that with a tired and decimated Barça team in the semis.


If there's a lesson for next season, it's to rotate more (if that's even possible with such a thin squad) and to plan the season so that we hit our dip in form earlier and peak around April/May.
Enrique also had unlimited funds to rebuild the team as he wishes, that is the main part really, Xavi also would have been successful with the same.

But props all the same as City with Pep proved that unlimited money doesn't get you a CL by default. Enrique's main strength was that he focused on young motivated players and a strong pressing system.
 

draconifire

NTC with a Positive attitude
We need to highlight this also. There is no need to go gun-ho gun blazing from the start of the season.
Rotate, innovate, and experiment. Focus on the league early. Take the cup games lightly.
We didn't have to play with our starters against the Young boys and Zvezda.

We should have subbed most players out when 2-3 goals ahead.
Keep our squad fresh till January, and then start playing your actual game.

There is no glory when you play well all season but fizzle out in CL like always. PSG, Vardrid are all examples of team that play for the CL first and then every other competition. That will bring you glory.
 

KingLeo10

Senior Member
We need to highlight this also. There is no need to go gun-ho gun blazing from the start of the season.
Rotate, innovate, and experiment. Focus on the league early. Take the cup games lightly.
We didn't have to play with our starters against the Young boys and Zvezda.

We should have subbed most players out when 2-3 goals ahead.
Keep our squad fresh till January, and then start playing your actual game.

There is no glory when you play well all season but fizzle out in CL like always. PSG, Vardrid are all examples of team that play for the CL first and then every other competition. That will bring you glory.
Thankfully, we have great leaders like Lewa who can help the team prioritize on the season’s objectives instead of stat padding in September and October….oh wait :lol:
 

jamrock

Senior Member
No copa next season, leave it to Atleti, only thing they will have a chance at anyways.

That and like many have said before rotate earlier and more at the start of the season.

Be as pragmatic as we were against Atleti and Madrid in the kings cup, from winning positions.

The rest will just be down to Luck in the CL and a keeper that makes saves.
 

vegitot

Senior Member
Enrique also had unlimited funds to rebuild the team as he wishes, that is the main part really, Xavi also would have been successful with the same.

But props all the same as City with Pep proved that unlimited money doesn't get you a CL by default. Enrique's main strength was that he focused on young motivated players and a strong pressing system.
City play against way stronger domestic opponents and that may affect their strength in KO games.

I doubt Qsg can repeat the same feat next season. This season they didn't face Barca and Madrid.

On the other hand, Flick can learn something from this Qsg side, especially the fluidity of midfield.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
Our Midfield isn't capable of doing what PSG's does, due to olmo and de jong.

All 3 of their midfielders has some level of comfort and effectiveness in all 3 positions in Midfield, not us.

Would be great to see us try though
 

serghei

Senior Member
Hard to know this imo. PSG midfield won't play like under Luis Enrique if they had some other manager that wasn't Barca-based, even if they have exactly the same players. The manager plays a big role in how the midfield is structured. Different managers have different styles.
 

vegitot

Senior Member
Our Midfield isn't capable of doing what PSG's does, due to olmo and de jong.

All 3 of their midfielders has some level of comfort and effectiveness in all 3 positions in Midfield, not us.

Would be great to see us try though
I don't know why Flick didn't try more Pedri - Gavi - FDJ with false 9 Olmo. That performance vs Betis in Copa Del Rey was glorious.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
Hard to know this imo. PSG midfield won't play like under Luis Enrique if they had some other manager that wasn't Barca-based, even if they have exactly the same players. The manager plays a big role in how the midfield is structured. Different managers have different styles.

players who are capable of doing it is key, wether a different manager would use them the same way isn't the main point.

All 3 are comfortable filling in all roles in Midfield.

With us, if you ask olmo to stay at DM he will look lost.

Same for de Jong at A.M.

We could come close to it with how I highlighted the similar profiles in the neves trend

Neves is de Jong, the one who gets forward the least.

Gavi is Ruiz box to box

Pedri is vitinha.

But with olmo, de Jong, pedri, it's not really possible, Enrique couldn't have those 3, do what he's doing with PSG, wrong skillsets, bar pedri
 

serghei

Senior Member
Our players are capable of doing it, it would just be different version of the same general template. Of course it wouldn't look exactly like it does with PSG because the players are different. But technically, all are superior to what you see at most teams, even from the top 6.

The fundamental things you need to have to play this way is a great manager who knows Barca football and players who are quick thinkers and gifted technically. You don't need to have super physical players. After all, the best version of this style ever created was with Busi, Xavi, Iniesta.

I remain convinced that the style Lucho has implemented at PSG would work great at Barcelona. A little slower, yes, not quite as physical, but with even more flair and creativity during those triangles.
 
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jamrock

Senior Member
Our players are capable of doing it, it would just be different version of the same general template. Of course it wouldn't look exactly like it does with PSG because the players are different. But technically, all are superior to what you see at most teams, even from the top 6.

They aren't for the reasons I stated, first it's our Midfield is better than there, you've changed that now to their are equal.

They aren't, PSG's is better and can do more things that ours can.

Not a matter of coaching, just vastly different technical abilities and skill sets.

But not a debate I will get much further into, this one is too obvious.

Good luck playing Olmo at DM lol
 

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
Frenkie can do it and did play very well this season even though some clearly hate to admit it.

The biggest problem have been Dani Olmo.

Our 50m signing cannot play like an amateur vs. top teams as he did almost the entire season.

And this is going to annoy some people since he has his fans, but my biggest issue with Olmo by far was also him playing like a pussy. He showed no fight in our CL KO games. If he got kicked a little it looked like he got scared and depressed, and both RM and Inter clearly targeted him that way because they knew they could mentally take him out of the game like that.
 

serghei

Senior Member
No, their midfield is not better from top to bottom. It's better at some things, sure, but our midfield can also do things creatively that PSG's midfield can't do.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
Frenkie can do it and did play very well this season even though some clearly hate to admit it.

The biggest problem have been Dani Olmo.

Our 50m signing cannot play like an amateur vs. top teams as he did almost the entire season.

And this is going to annoy some people since he has his fans, but my biggest issue with Olmo by far was also him playing like a pussy. He showed no fight in our CL KO games. If he got kicked a little it looked like he got scared and depressed, and both RM and Inter clearly targeted him that way because they knew they could mentally take him out of the game like that.

Yea frenkie can play AM like neves and Ruiz did lol.

Imagine him in the position Ruiz was for the first two PSG goals, 😂 😂.

Why do I even try with people who are always wrong and can never admit it, SMH

Frenkie or olmo Can Never EVER play football the way Enrique requires.

But who know who could?. Gavi
 

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