Florian Wirtz

Jenks

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He'll come good in the end I would think, he'll just have to adapt to the tempto and physicality of English football. I remember David Silva's first few games for City and he looked like a boy against men but then he turned into one of the best midfielders the league has ever seen.
 
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jamrock

Senior Member
Give him time

Fermin is still better though, gavi too, buts it will be 2 years without football for him, will have to revisit than one in the future.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Gavi has never been better than Wirtz and never will be. Excuses in early though.

Fermin isnt currently either and would need to improve a lot to get there.

It wont be 2 years without football for Gavi it would be one year than a year later 4/5 months.

Wirtz missed a year.. then instantly won player of year in Germany the next full season.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
Do you honestly believe that or just trying to wind people (Jammy) up?

I don't even see jamturds post.

I've said gavi will be better then wirtz for years now, actually since the league winning season.

I remember wirtz having a great game against Bayern and a few were coming at me, then gavi showed out against Madrid in the 1-2 lost a week later are there abouts.

So last season would have been when he proved it fully, but we all know how that worked out.

As for fermin he's just highly underrated, he would put up wirtz numbers in Germany.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
Stinker/horror take by @jamrock.

Wirtz may have great numbers but he is so much more than just numbers.

Naah he'll come good for Liverpool
Fermin and gavi are just better (gavi we'll have to wait and see).

The fact that so many on here can't hold two opinions in there mind as the same time is shocking to me.

Me saying gavi and fermin better, must mean I don't think wirtz is good, when I've literally been saying him some time.
 
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vegitot

Senior Member
Stinker/horror take by @jamrock.

Wirtz may have great numbers but he is so much more than just numbers.
Currently 006 for Liverpool. Yeah, not so great number.

He may come good but for such world record money, just decent/good is not enough.

He must be on KDB's level to justify the money.

Isak must be on Haaland's level too.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Considering that top leagues are 1 or 2 at most teams affairs... CL is gonna be key this season. As it was last season.

Wirtz has time though, they didn't buy him just for 3-4 seasons.

Atm he's probably one of the names who can jump to top class soon, like Isak.

Gavi has no business being mentioned even among players close to top level atm. Pretty much an unknown quantity. Missed 2 years under Flick. Should get his knees in order, get regimented under Flick as a main player first, and then we'll see.
 
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Temptation

Well-known member
Naah he'll come good for Liverpool
Fermin and gavi are just better (gavi we'll have to wait and see).

The fact that so many on here can't hold two opinions in there mind as the same time is shocking to me.

Me saying gavi and fermin better, must mean I don't think wirtz is good, when I've literally been saying him some time.
I know you rate him but saying Gavi and Fermin are better so far is crazy!

Dude was the Bundesliga player of the season 2 times in a row and is already the main man of the German national team.

Wirtz was always rated alongside Pedri, Bellingham and Musiala when these 4 midfielders broke into the mainstream conversations.

He's definitely more accomplished than Gavi and Fermin. I'm someone who has always rated Gavi and Fermin BTW.
 

Temptation

Well-known member
Currently 006 for Liverpool. Yeah, not so great number.

He may come good but for such world record money, just decent/good is not enough.

He must be on KDB's level to justify the money.

Isak must be on Haaland's level too.
He hasn't played 90 minutes in those games.

KDB is a once in a generation midfielder. I'm not expecting him to be that good but he definitely has the ability to be that.

Isak's all round game is already LEVELS ABOVE Haaland objectively. Anyone who has watched both will agree. Isak is a gorgeous Footballer who glides with the ball.
 

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