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Maradona37

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not an elaborate test no, if you think that is then oof
Seemed like you were using ableist language then when I mentioned it you acted like you were trying to trap/ensnare someone into falling for it in terms of pointing out the hypocrisy.

If you mean it speaks badly of my character to point out the hypocrisy, I am not sure how. Using a term like 'retards' is something I strongly dislike even when people I get on with use it, but I still defend you being able to use it (on this forum which is lightly moderated, at least).

Bear in mind that many women (who you are defending) will be 'retarded' too. Disability does not discriminate by gender. Isms cut across gender, social status, class, nationality, race, everything. We can't pick and choose our moral battles - be consistent and all or nothing.

Either way, just calm down. Maybe the joke was a bit much but Don didn't mean anything vicious by it. I have talked to him a lot and I promise he's not a nasty guy in that sense. If we was a complete cunt I would be on your side.

Like I say I generally like your posts. You don't need to get so offended on this matter - plenty of women wouldn't be offended.
 
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Rory

Senior Member
Seemed like you were using ableist language then when I mentioned it you acted like you were trying to trap/ensnare someone into falling for it in terms of pointing out the hypocrisy.

If you mean it speaks badly of my character to point out the hypocrisy, I am not sure how. Using a term like 'retards' is something I strongly dislike even when people I get on with use it, but I still defend you being able to use it (on this forum which is lightly moderated, at least).

Bear in mind that many women (who you are defending) will be 'retarded' too. Disability does not discriminate by gender. Isms cut across gender, social status, class, nationality, race, everything. We can't pick and choose our moral battles - be consistent and all or nothing.

Either way, just calm down. Maybe the joke was a bit much but Don didn't mean anything vicious by it. I have talked to him a lot and I promise he's not a nasty guy in that sense. If we was a complete cunt I would be on your side.

Like I say I generally like your posts. You don't need to get so offended on this matter - plenty of women wouldn't be offended.
All you're doing is further highlighting your moral compass, which was the purpose. Crack on if you like. Very interesting the line being drawn here.
 

Maradona37

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All you're doing is further highlighting your moral compass, which was the purpose. Crack on if you like. Very interesting the line being drawn here.
Well that's up to you if you think that.

All I will say is you don't really have a leg to stand on using ableist language. And some of the women you are defending (and have been raped) will be slow or 'retarded' - in fact many horrid rapists target exactly those women because they're less likely to speak up. So how do you reconcile calling people 'retards', when some of those 'retards' are the women you are saying not to insult through 'rape jokes'?

For what it is worth, despite laughing at the joke, I do care a lot about women and don't want any innocent woman (or man or child) to be hurt either physically or mentally.

I think the point I am making about being consistent and defending all people who suffer from prejudice, rather than picking and choosing based on what matters to you most, as you appear to be doing, is a good one. You appear to place a lot of emphasis on not insulting (able) women and care very little about giving the same privilege to people with disabilities. At least based on what you have written in here. But whatever.

I think I am making a fair point. You are just trying to gaslight Don and I into thinking we are immoral monsters and you're a shining beacon of decency. All while you call people 'retards'. Not buying it, mate.
 
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Maradona37

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Anyway listen, I really cannot be bothered arguing about this anymore. Especially on a Sunday afternoon. It's too much hassle.

I respect your point of view and maybe the original joke was in poor taste. But Don didn't mean anything bad I am sure.
 

Rory

Senior Member
Well that's up to you if you think that.

All I will say is you don't really have a leg to stand on using ableist language. And some of the women you are defending (and have been raped) will be slow or 'retarded' - in fact many horrid rapists target exactly those women because they're less likely to speak up. So how do you reconcile calling people 'retards', when some of those 'retards' are the women you are saying not to insult through 'rape jokes'?

For what it is worth, despite laughing at the joke, I do care a lot about women and don't want any innocent woman (or man or child) to be hurt either physically or mentally.

I think the point I am making about being consistent and defending all people who suffer from prejudice, rather than picking and choosing based on what matters to you most, as you appear to be doing, is a good one. You appear to place a lot of emphasis on not insulting (able) women and care very little about giving the same privilege to people with disabilities. At least based on what you have written in here. But whatever.

I think I am making a fair point. You are just trying to gaslight Don and I into thinking we are immoral monsters and you're a shining beacon of decency. All while you call people 'retards'. Not buying it, mate.
All this waffle to make yourself feel better. Been found out, get over it. I permit you the last word on this that you oh so crave.
 

Maradona37

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All this waffle to make yourself feel better. Been found out, get over it. I permit you the last word on this that you oh so crave.
You're the one who got caught in hypocrisy and laughably and poorly tried to squirm his way out of it, not me.

Can't answer the questions or rebuff so post (yet another) one line of attacking the content and call it waffle, and claim I have been found out. While saying fuck all proving or showing why.

Typical tactics of so so many arrogant, judgemental, deceitful and frankly lazy internet posters. Believe what you like - I made pertinent points and you know you have been caught out after you used ableist language despite positioning yourself as a moral man before that (you don't care about women really, you just wanted to show you are a good person, which you clearly are not).

And you are still yet to explain how you can call people 'retards' yet be outraged at raped women being insulted - when in MANY cases those are the same person. You know you have been turned inside out here.

Gaslighting, no-argument-making idiot. Blocked for your underhand tactics and sheer stupidity - not letting you wind me up you troll. I have no time for people who refuse to address points - you're far too cowardly to acknowledge your hypocrisy. Not man enough.
 
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Maradona37

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I sometimes feel I am one of the few people on the internet who gives other people the respect of actually addressing their points. Troglodytes like Rory just post one line judgements and sarcasm.

And with that, I am done for now.
 

Barcaman

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I sometimes feel I am one of the few people on the internet who gives other people the respect of actually addressing their points.

And with that, I am done for now.

Less and less people fall for their virtue signaling without addressing points or going for empty ad hominem.
 

Maradona37

Well-known member
Less and less people fall for their virtue signaling without addressing points or going for empty ad hominem.
I lean left of centre myself, and that is fine, but I just feel the guy has made a mountain out of a molehill.

If you virtue signal you better be pristine yourself too, yet he goes on to call people 'retards' and then claim it was to try and out someone who brings it up as some sort of false equivalence type.

Fuck him, the gaslighting, sly, snakey cunt. And with that I am going to watch the PL games.
 

Rory

Senior Member
Hilarious stuff, true nature coming out as has happened multiple times on this forum. Stick to thinking rape jokes are funny whilst being "offended" by retard. Keep at it with the paragraphs.

Also barcaman who would I be virtue signalling to? The 0 women on the forum? The rest of the forum who aren't interested?

"Woke police", "virtue signalling" famously used by those who have no content to their argument. Irony off the charts with you lot.
 

Barcaman

Administrator
Staff member
Hilarious stuff, true nature coming out as has happened multiple times on this forum. Stick to thinking rape jokes are funny whilst being "offended" by retard. Keep at it with the paragraphs.

Also barcaman who would I be virtue signalling to? The 0 women on the forum? The rest of the forum who aren't interested?

"Woke police", "virtue signalling" famously used by those who have no content to their argument. Irony off the charts with you lot.

Noone gives a shit about your panties being twisted. Either comment on topic or move on.
 

Messi983

Senior Member
Back to football we have Lyon who wants to go back to the top where they still think they belong and Michele Kang will surely do everything (she already hired Zubi Jr. as a SD a year ago) for that to happen and then ofc PSG will continue to invest as well.

And now they are very close to hire Jonatan Giraldez too. Was probably the plan all along he'll return to one of Kang's owned European clubs soon and ofc Lyon makes all the sense. Will probably join London City Lionesses too in future when they become more established in the WSL (they just got promoted there).

Wouldn't be surprised to see some of our players joining Lyon too in next years. It sucks but that's the price you pay when successful. Money talks too obviously. And why that Arsenal loss hurts even more because it will become tougher every year to win the CL.
 

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