Estêvão

[jamrock]

But that was not the reason why we didn't sign him, the money was. The money that went to bums I mentioned + the bums we already had like Lewa and MATS.

Estevao would be a million times better than Olmo in the #10 position anyway. He would also be much cheaper, younger and healthier. An idiotic decision by Deco/Laporta like most of them.

I'm pretty sure the reports were that we had a choice of the two and went with Victor because we say him as a lewa replacement, because we couldn't afford both.

I could be wrong though, but fairly certain that was the situation.

Mats and lewa didn't have anything to do with it, unless we are just pointing fingers everywhere.

 

[TheStig]

I literally posted a quote from Curry saying we didn't sign him because of money.

Mentioned Lewa and MATS as example how Laporta gave them a shitload of money instead of investing the limited resources to younger players but it's true that signing Olmo, Vitor and Rashford is a more relevant in this discussion.

 

[jamrock]

I literally posted a quote from Curry saying we didn't sign him because of money.

Mentioned Lewa and MATS as example how Laporta gave them a shitload of money instead of investing the limited resources to younger players but it's true that signing Olmo, Vitor and Rashford is a more relevant in this discussion.

You literally posted that. Then immediately linked mats & lewa who aren't really relevant to what happen if you think about it and use context.

Lewa was signed 4 years ago and was been a great signing for us, how is that relevant to not signing this kid 1 or 2 seasons ago?.

The choice was him or Victor and with hindsight we made the wrong decision and invested out resources in the wrong player, but with us having yamal, I can understand the club saying lets move for Victor instead.

Rashford isn't relevant either.

Only one that is relevant is Victor and maybe olmo if you want to push that prospective.

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

^as jamrock says to that time Vitor fit better, also no one could have known how Estevao will deveop in 2-3 years

 

[TheStig]

Of course it is relevant, if you spend your money on fossils you don't have enough for young players, especially in our situation. You seem to look at issues very narrow, just as the guys you worship do.

The choice was him or Victor and with hindsight with made the wrong decision and invested out resources in the wrong player, but with us having yamal, I can understand the club saying lets move for Victor instead.

Rashford isn't relevant either.

Only one that is relevant is Victor and maybe olmo if you want to push that prospective.

Estevao was always a much bigger talent than Roque, that's just a stupid decision in itself. It's probably not even a sporting one, we know that our club loves shady deals in Brazil.

Many people look at Rashford's loan as cheap but is it really? He costs us FFP wise for 1 season the same as Estevao would on a 5+ years contract. If we went for Estevao we would get a much better player, younger, cheaper and with Ballon d'or potential but we prefered fucking Rashford and Olmo.

 

[khaled_a_d]

Roque deal was agreed a whole year before Estevao move to Chelsea, and before he even made his debut.

They aren't related at any shape or form, Barca wasn't going to pay 40M+ for a talent that plays in Lamine's position while he was yet to make his debut in Brazil.

Roque was a 30M signing who was top scorer in the league when we agreed the deal. Two different timelines.

 

[jamrock]

Roque deal was agreed a whole year before Estevao move to Chelsea, and before he even made his debut.

They aren't related at any shape or form, Barca wasn't going to pay 40M+ for a talent that plays in Lamine's position while he was yet to make his debut in Brazil.

Roque was a 30M signing who was top scorer in the league when we agreed the deal. Two different timelines.

I agree with this, but I'm also pretty sure he was very much on the club radar when we signed Victor.

But as you said, the club wasn't going to take that risk for the reasons you mentioned.

 

[TheStig]

I'm talking in general how Laporta wasted the limited funds he had. It's not really about Estevao, I could make a similar case for some young CB, fullback or striker. The point is we blew all the money we had on Olmo, Vitor and Rashford.

If we talk about Estevao the best comparison is the Olmo deal since they were both bought in 2024.

 

[serghei]

Estevao played the same position as Yamal anyway. Just a very nice player you can appreciate and compare to Yamal in the future, like Doue really.

 

[TheStig]

They aren't related at any shape or form, Barca wasn't going to pay 40M+ for a talent that plays in Lamine's position while he was yet to make his debut in Brazil.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1993675725287878898

They were at least thinking about it but in the end decided for the flops.

 

[TheStig]

Estevao played the same position as Yamal anyway. Just a very nice player you can appreciate and compare to Yamal in the future, like Doue really.

That's the valid concern but do anyone really think Estevao would be worse than Olmo on CAM or Rashy on LW? I don't, we could use him there + as a backup for Yamal.

 

[serghei]

That's the valid concern but do anyone really think Estevao would be worse than Olmo on CAM or Rashy on LW? I don't, we could use him there + as a backup for Yamal.

Yeah, easier said than done. There will always be uninspired signings. The difference is for clubs like Barcelona they cost the opportunity to sign other players, and for players like Chelsea the cost is virtually zero. The fact that they spent 90m for a collosal flop like Mudryk, that had nearly zero economic impact.

 

[khaled_a_d]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1993675725287878898

They were at least thinking about it but in the end decided for the flops.

Of course they thought about it, to say Barca scouting system is massive is understatement and they knew about him, they are probably following some 15 years old kids in Botswana while we speak.

But the two is as related as saying we couldn't sign Estevao because of the Coutinho and Dembele deals. They are all just bad deals that happened in different timelines. Unless you think when Barca think a 16 years old kid is talented somewhere, we should stop doing other deals until we see how he looks after he make his first team and buy him.

 

[TheStig]

Forget about others, it was more a general rant. Focus on Olmo who was on the same timeline, similar position, similar money (Olmo was even more expensive than Estevao would be) but much older, with much lower ceiling, with a big question mark because of injuries.

 

[Jenks]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1993675725287878898

They were at least thinking about it but in the end decided for the flops.

Sounds made up. He signed an 8 year contract last year.