Ernesto Valverde

[jamrock]

Our weak jaw in Europe all started with this mofo, just as a friendly reminder.

 

[DonAK]

We got slapped 3-0 away vs. Juve with Lucho.

 

[jamrock]

We got slapped 3-0 away vs. Juve with Lucho.

We won the champions league with lucho

He's 0-2 in SF after being 3-0 in the first leg

Levels.

 

[khaled_a_d]

Our weak jaw in Europe all started with this mofo, just as a friendly reminder.

We have been humiliated in Europe since end of 2012, and our problems outside of home started under Pep.
You want to criticize EV that is fine, but blaming him for starting our European habits is ignoring to a much deeper problems.

 

[jamrock]

We have been humiliated in Europe since end of 2012, and our problems outside of home started under Pep.
You want to criticize EV that is fine, but blaming him for starting our European habits is ignoring to a much deeper problems.

Doesn't 2015 come before or after 2012? Because that's the last time we actually won it.

I know Madrid have people believe crazy come backs in CL are a regular thing as is winning it back to back to back, but it ain't, we won some we lost some, 12 we got beat, 3 years later we came back & won it.

Since Valverde, who was up 3-0 twice!!! Our record speaks for itself, that's when we lost our fear factor in the champions league, the Bayern 8-2 added to it.

Theirs a massive difference is saying we haven't won't the CL in 8 years, as opposed to 4, that's thanks to Valverde.

 

[jamrock]

Before him we were averaging a CL roughly every 3 years 2005-2015, 4 titles.

Had the chance to get that going twice!!!, Fucked it up twice!!.

 

[Messigician]

Before him we were averaging a CL roughly every 3 years 2005-2015, 4 titles.

Had the chance to get that going twice!!!, Fucked it up twice!!.

Stop being stupid

Arguing with the logic of a 5 year old child

 

[jamrock]

Stop being stupid

Arguing with the logic of a 5 year old child

Coming from you, I take that as a compliment, 5 year old is genius level compared to your usual shit. Lol

Your mister is a major fuck up, just accept it.

 

[Messigician]

Coming from you, I take that as a compliment, 5 year old is genius level compared to your usual shit. Lol

Your mister is a major fuck up, just accept it.

I'll break it down for you

We won UCL because we had players like prime MSN, Alves, and Rakitic playing for the team

Not Paulinho, Gomez, Sergi Roberto etc

Nit s hard concept

 

[Birdy]

We have been humiliated in Europe since end of 2012, and our problems outside of home started under Pep.
You want to criticize EV that is fine, but blaming him for starting our European habits is ignoring to a much deeper problems.

Being bad at away games is different from being humiliated.

There is only 1 reason for the humiliations: the Amigos and the Amigo culture
Valverde didn't create that. But he is guilty of fostering and cultivating that more than every other coach BEFORE or AFTER
FACTS

 

[Messigician]

Being bad at away games is different from being humiliated.

There is only 1 reason for the humiliations: the Amigos and the Amigo culture
Valverde didn't create that. But he is guilty of fostering and cultivating that more than every other coach BEFORE or AFTER
FACTS

4-0 to bayern in 2013

 

[Birdy]

4-0 to bayern in 2013

That' when Tito was dying, and we were playing with no coach.

What a numpty...

 

[Messigician]

That' when Tito was dying, and we were playing with no coach.

What a numpty...

Jordi Roura was the coach what do you mean no coach?

 

[KingLeo10]

We have been humiliated in Europe since end of 2012, and our problems outside of home started under Pep.
You want to criticize EV that is fine, but blaming him for starting our European habits is ignoring to a much deeper problems.

We were actually quite strong away from home under Lucho for half of his tenure.

 

[Messigician]

We were actually quite strong away from home under Lucho for half of his tenure.

Not really

Nearly choked to bayern in treble season