Erling Haaland

[feggydinho]

Aasgard scored four goals against Moldova and from watching him at rangers he is absolutely fucking awful.

Come back to reality please, saying there's few weak teams in UEFA. You sound like a Haaland fanboy but there's no need to lie to make him seem better.

Let's see if he can do it in the actual tournament against teams on Norway's level or better. He's put in plenty of no shows in big games for a stronger team in Man City so so we will see.

And he is improving in all-round game for me, but he still has a lot to prove for Norway as he's untested in tournaments.

Seems like you're just angry that your country won't be at the tournament next year.

Haaland is a goal-scoring machine; his goal records in different leagues and for the National team demonstrate this cause having 51 goals in 46 national appearances is crazy, more so for Norway.

Currently, the top three forwards would be him, Harry Kane, and Mbappe.

 

[Maradona37]

Haaland is a goal-scoring machine; his goal records in different leagues and for the National team demonstrate this cause having 51 goals in 46 national appearances is crazy, more so for Norway.

Currently, the top three forwards would be him, Harry Kane, and Mbappe.

Yeah, in qualifiers, mostly beating up on minnows, that is my point.

I never denied he's one of the best strikers in the world - my point is that doing it in qualifiers is a whole different ball game to the actual tournaments, where he is untested. Like people wanking over Ronaldo's goals against Lithuania and Luxembourg, then he goes to tournaments and has records like this never scoring a goal or getting an assist every time Portugal exit a tournament (the game they go out in), in like ten goes at it (excluding the competition they won, where he went off in the final).

Qualifiers are meaningless - scoring goals in them is meaningless. Nobody gives you any special praise for doing well in qualifiers then going out in the group at the tournament. All they are are about getting to the tournament. What matters is doing well in the tournaments, and he finally has a decent team around him so he has no excuse.

If he comes up against a similar level team (say a Morocco or an Austria for argument's sake) there and does it there, then he deserves all the plaudits. But the fact is all his 51 goals have come outside of tournaments. Not his fault as Norway have been poor for most of his time in the team, but now he is finally going to play in an international tournament. Let's see if he an do it there. Even in the treble season his knockout CL record was poor.

 

[Maradona37]

Here's posts in the wc qualifying thread from @ThwiX , which sum up what i am saying and I agree with fully.

'Haaland with 11 goals in 6 games. The quality of these national teams in European qualifiers is embarrassing and what Penaldo built his NT goal record on. Hopefully Haaland can troll him and his petty fans in the future by following the same recipe and beat that misleading record.


There’s the hattrick too. 12 in 6 games. 51 in 46 games for Norway already. Still young. Coming for those Penaldo records in the future.'

It amazes me how people go on about the importance of 'big games' and talk about BL and Ligue 1 being 'farmers leagues', yet wank over international qualifiers in UEFA, which are generally playing against a FAR lower level than in those leagues.

I mean on here you have people mocking teams like Rennes, Werder Bremen etc as if they're nobodies and it's easy to play against them. Then these same people doubt that estonia and Moldova (who rennes and bremen would beat no problem) are minnows.

it's funny and ironic, but does not surprise me

 

[feggydinho]

Yeah, in qualifiers, mostly beating up on minnows, that is my point.

I never denied he's one of the best strikers in the world - my point is that doing it in qualifiers is a whole different ball game to the actual tournaments, where he is untested. Like people wanking over Ronaldo's goals against Lithuania and Luxembourg, then he goes to tournaments and has records like this never scoring a goal or getting an assist every time Portugal exit a tournament (the game they go out in), in like ten goes at it (excluding the competition they won, where he went off in the final).

Qualifiers are meaningless - scoring goals in them is meaningless. Nobody gives you any special praise for doing well in qualifiers then going out in the group at the tournament. All they are are about getting to the tournament. What matters is doing well in the tournaments, and he finally has a decent team around him so he has no excuse.

If he comes up against a similar level team (say a Morocco or an Austria for argument's sake) there and does it there, then he deserves all the plaudits. But the fact is all his 51 goals have come outside of tournaments. Not his fault as Norway have been poor for most of his time in the team, but now he is finally going to play in an international tournament. Let's see if he an do it there. Even in the treble season his knockout CL record was poor.

But Haaland also does well in the tournaments. He has 52 goals in 50 UCL games, and he's 25.

He has the record for fastest 50 goals in the UCL (49 games), and when you look deeper, he scored 8 goals in 6 games for Salzburg, 15 goals in 13 games for Dortmund and the rest for Man City (that is impressive for anyone)

If he were in this current Portugal squad, I believe he'll score goals in the World Cup, cause he's got the raw strength and speed, and definitely a menace for defenders. Anyway, I think we'll see then, I also believe people may have different opinions in 5 years time if he continues at this space cause he's 25 and his goal scoring record is crazy

 

[Maradona37]

But Haaland also does well in the tournaments. He has 52 goals in 50 UCL games, and he's 25.

If he were in this current Portugal squad, I believe he'll score goals in the World Cup, cause he's got the raw strength and speed, and definitely a menace for defenders. Anyway, I think we'll see then, I also believe people may have different opinions in 5 years time if he continues at this space cause he's 25 and his goal scoring record is crazy

I am talking about international tournaments where he hasn't played yet.. And yeah, he's scored a lot of goals in the CL, but so many come in bunches and in games that aren't right at the end of the tournament, like Lewandowski who mostly scores in the groups or early knockout rounds.

he is generally invisible in semis and finals, for example. And that's not taking into account his mediocre |(but improving) all-round game.

Anyway I am not even referring to haaland. I am talking about people wanking over goals in qualifiers, like qualifiers matter. if Haaland is terrible at the world cup (not saying he will be, but if) this will all be meaningless. Rooney used to do this too - people would marvel at his scoring in qualifiers then he'd be pathetic in the tournaments.

Don't you think anyone with a brain (which excludes Ronaldo himself) would switch 50 of ronaldo's meaningless goals in qualifiers for one or two important, substantial ones in the world cup knockouts?

Quality over quantity, football fans don't get context, as my post above about rennes and bremen highlight. It's like Tempt wanking over Lewa scoring against France in the last world cup, when it was a 90th minute penalty consolation at 3-0 down after he'd been awful the whole game. it goes down as a goal in the game, so stats merchants will act like he 'performed in a big game', but anyone who watched the game knows how hollow it is.

 

[Maradona37]

you can only beat what's in front of you man.

That's true. But people should put it in proper perspective.

Wanking over goals against Estonia, Moldova and Lithuania is hilarious. The level at tournaments is generally much higher, other than the odd poor country who slip through.

Like I said Aaasgard scored four against Moldova and Rangers fans think he's terrible. FIND SOME CONTEXT AND PERSPECTIVE.

 

[feggydinho]

I am talking about international tournaments where he hasn't played yet.. And yeah, he's scored a lot of goals in the CL, but so many come in bunches and in games that aren't right at the end of the tournament, like Lewandowski who mostly scores in the groups or early knockout rounds.

he is generally invisible in semis and finals, for example. And that's not taking into account his mediocre |(but improving) all-round game.

Anyway I am not even referring to haaland. I am talking about people wanking over goals in qualifiers, like qualifiers matter. if Haaland is terrible at the world cup (not saying he will be, but if) this will all be meaningless. Rooney used to do this too - people would marvel at his scoring in qualifiers then he'd be pathetic in the tournaments.

Don't you think anyone with a brain (which excludes Ronaldo himself) would switch 50 of ronaldo's meaningless goals in qualifiers for one or two important, substantial ones in the world cup knockouts?

Quality over quantity, football fans don't get context, as my post above about rennes and bremen highlight. It's like Tempt wanking over Lewa scoring against France in the last world cup, when it was a 90th minute penalty consolation at 3-0 down after he'd been awful the whole game. it goes down as a goal in the game, so stats merchants will act like he 'performed in a big game', but anyone who watched the game knows how hollow it is.

We'll know more about Haaland for the international team as Norway features in more tournaments, but so far, he has been impressive.

For Club, he's quality as UCL is a tough club competition, and you can see his goal rate. Let's see how it goes, though

 

[Temptation]

This is an insane stat!

Vinicius is an absolute embarrassment.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1977066827307221440

 

[Maradona37]

We'll know more about Haaland for the international team as Norway features in more tournaments, but so far, he has been impressive.

For Club, he's quality as UCL is a tough club competition, and you can see his goal rate. Let's see how it goes, though

Never denied any of that, I am just asking for some context here. Like I explained in the CL he hasn't done much in the very big games.

We have seen with Rooney, Lewa and to a lesser extent Ronaldo, players running riot in stats in qualifiers then being terrible at tournaments.

Ronaldo's goals against Sweden that night for example meant nothing ultimately given how pathetic he was in Brazil. The guy has almost 150 international goals and only THREE have come in the knockout stages of international tournaments. Despite playing in I think 11 of them over more than 20 years.

To me that is the epitome of hollow, and quantity over quality, and I don't know how any with good logic can disagree.

we will see if Haaland acts as the same flat track bully. He might, he might not.

 

[Maradona37]

I think everyone went to bed,basically.

Ronaldo never scored in world cup KO,maybe in Euros he did a few.

Time will tell as always.

Yes, his three knockout goals came in the Euros, and I think at least two of those were headers, maybe all three. None with his feet. How pitiful for a man who has had more chances than anyone. All the excuses about Portugal being a weak team too are nonsense, and even if they weren't, guys like Hagi, Stoitchkov, Forlan and Modric have done better than him in tournaments with smaller nations.

he's a massive failure at international level - the sheer amount of flimsy excuses made for him prove it - and the main example of meaningless quantity over substantial quality, no matter how how acolytes and worshippers spin it. They think the cunt walks on water and now Haaland is attracting the same creepy, obsessive worshipping types.

 

[feggydinho]

I am talking about international tournaments where he hasn't played yet.. And yeah, he's scored a lot of goals in the CL, but so many come in bunches and in games that aren't right at the end of the tournament, like Lewandowski who mostly scores in the groups or early knockout rounds.

he is generally invisible in semis and finals, for example. And that's not taking into account his mediocre |(but improving) all-round game.

Anyway I am not even referring to haaland. I am talking about people wanking over goals in qualifiers, like qualifiers matter. if Haaland is terrible at the world cup (not saying he will be, but if) this will all be meaningless. Rooney used to do this too - people would marvel at his scoring in qualifiers then he'd be pathetic in the tournaments.

Don't you think anyone with a brain (which excludes Ronaldo himself) would switch 50 of ronaldo's meaningless goals in qualifiers for one or two important, substantial ones in the world cup knockouts?

Quality over quantity, football fans don't get context, as my post above about rennes and bremen highlight. It's like Tempt wanking over Lewa scoring against France in the last world cup, when it was a 90th minute penalty consolation at 3-0 down after he'd been awful the whole game. it goes down as a goal in the game, so stats merchants will act like he 'performed in a big game', but anyone who watched the game knows how hollow it is.

Haaland's goals in the UCL has been important and also against top teams. Last season the top-ranked teams City faced in UCL is Juve, PSG, and Madrid. He scored against PSG, twice against Madrid and didn't score against Juve (now City left the competition as Madrid won overall), but Haaland was good.

This season he scored in their 2 UCL games so far, and in City's UCL winning season, hehad 12 UCL goals and was key for them. The top teams he hasn't scored against in the UCL is Inter, Juve, and Ajax, so what I see is that Haaland tends to score in the competitions, and I think he would score in the World Cup if he still goes there with this form, but time will tell.

 

[Maradona37]

Haaland goals in UCL has been important and also against top teams. Last season the top ranked teams City faced in UCL is Juve, PSG, and Madrid. He scored against PSG, twice against Madrid and didnt score against Juve (now City left the competition as Madrid won overall) but Haaland was good.

In City's UCL winning season, Haaland had 12 UCL goals and was key for them, in the UCL the top teams he hasn't scored against that he has faced is Inter, Juve and Ajax, so what I see is that Haaland tends to score in the competitions and I think he would score in World cup if he still goes there with this form, but time would tell.

He scores goals in earlier rounds. In the knockout phase of the treble season his performances were awful and he hardly scored to boot. He was one of their worst players in the semi and final.

And you're still going on about stats. I have seen him improve his all-round game but it is still mediocre for a so called world-class player.

Let's see what he does for City in CL knockouts (if they get there) and Norway at the World Cup. My entire point is people should hold fire and see how he performs IN THE ACTUAL TOURNAMENT, rather than pathetically and prematurely wank off over goals against Moldova and Israel when even a poor player like Thelo Aaasgard can rack up goals against Moldova.

That other guy claiming earlier there's very few weak teams in UEFA just is completely detached from reality and proves he's only saying that to try to glorify Haaland, who he clearly loves. The bias is unbelievable. it's a fact there's loads of weak teams in the UEFA confederation. It's been a discussion point for many years, to the point many think there should be pre-qualifiers before the main qualifiers. But he pretends it isn't true because it tempers the praise of Haaland, and we can't have that, can we?

 

[feggydinho]

He scores goals in earlier rounds. In the knockout phase of the treble season his performances were awful and he hardly scored to boot. He was one of their worst players in the semi and final.

And you're still going on about stats. I have seen him improve his all-round game but it is still mediocre for a so called world-class player.

Let's see what he does for City in CL knockouts (if they get there) and Norway at the World Cup. My entire point is people should hold fire and see how he performs IN THE ACTUAL TOURNAMENT, rather than pathetically and prematurely wank off over goals against Moldova and Israel when even a poor player like Thelo Aaasgard can rack up goals against Moldova.

That other guy claiming earlier there's very few weak teams in UEFA just is completely detached from reality and proves he's only saying that to try to glorify Haaland, who he clearly loves. The bias is unbelievable. it's a fact there's loads of weak teams in the UEFA confederation. It's been a discussion point for many years, to the point many think there should be pre-qualifiers before the main qualifiers. But he pretends it isn't true because it tempers the praise of Haaland, and we can't have that, can we?

He wasn't horrible against Madrid in their UCL-winning season. Casillas made 3 crazy saves, but they couldn't contain him; it was more of a Casillas saving Madrid from getting battered as he even hit the bar from one of the saves, so he was good against Madrid; I still remember the game. He wasn't great against Inter in the finals, but apart from that, he was good, from the round of 16 to finals in their UCL winning season, he had 7 goals, but didn't score in the Semis and finals, so that's still a solid campaign.

You can't fully throw away stats. Scoring 51 goals in 46 games for Norway when it took Kane 71 games, Mbappe 90 games, Ronaldo 114 games, Lewa 90 games to reach 50 says a lot. These other guys are playing for better Countries, and we'll see if he continues the feat when they get into World Cup, but so far he as been getting the goals in different competitions

 

[Maradona37]

He wasn't horrible against Madrid in their UCL-winning season. Casillas made 3 crazy saves, but they couldn't contain him; it was more of a Casillas saving Madrid from getting battered (he even hit the bar), so he was quality against Madrid. He wasn't great against Inter in the finals, but apart from that, he was good, from the round of 16 to finals in their UCL winning season, he had 7 goals, but didn't score in the Semis and finals, so that's still a solid campaign

It's funny how people say 'Courtois made saves so he wasn't horrible' but when Courtois makes saves from Salah in CL Finals, Salah is castigated as bottling it.

It's just more evidence of something I think - some players (Haaland, Lewandowski, Ronaldo with his fanboys) are more popular with football fans and protected from criticism, whereas others (Salah, Messi by Ronaldo fans, Neymar) are hated in general by football fans and people are always looking for reasons to slag them off.

 

[Maradona37]

What I mean by that is this: Neymar is way more talented than Lewandowski will ever be. But Neymar is seen as a prick and Lewa is really well liked off the pitch (I don't know why, he seems a dickhead) so people protect Lewa from criticism and cover up his flaws. Whereas with Neymar they go well over the top about any negative they can find., because they don't like him personally they underrate him as a footballer.

It's got very little to do with who is better at football. Football - like life in general - is one big popularity contest, and some players and coaches are more well-liked than others.