Champions League 25/26

Winner?


  • Total voters
    43

ToranagaSama

Well-known member
With RM it never matters how they play. Remember last time they won the CL?

1-1 at home against Leipzig with 11 vs. 20 shots.

Rescued a draw to penalties against Man City (33 vs. 8 shots).

Then got an easy final against Dortmund under Terzic who finished 5th in Bundesliga that season.

Winning CLs while playing like shit is in their DNA.
 

malvolio

Senior Member
Current rankings for CL, considering injuries and form:

1. Bayern
2. Arsenal
3. PSG
4. City
5. Liverpool
6. Madrid
7. Atletico - Chelsea
8. Barca

PS: 4-6 spots can be shuffled as I don't see much difference between those teams
 

khaled_a_d

Senior Member
Kang in lee what a fucking footballer. Literally bullied Bayern defense in his cameo

Should go to PL and start for some big club. Tottenham maybe as the new Son

Saw him as no more than helpful supersub... until now. I think he could be much more

He changed the game, but looked like one trick pony, dribble to inside and cross/shoot with left foot. Suited PSG as Bayern was sitting back and playing with 10 men.

I doubt he will be starting for big club in EPL tbh. I feel being a depth player is the best situation for him.
 

Temptation

Well-known member
Current rankings for CL, considering injuries and form:

1. Bayern
2. Arsenal
3. PSG
4. City
5. Liverpool
6. Madrid
7. Atletico - Chelsea
8. Barca

PS: 4-6 spots can be shuffled as I don't see much difference between those teams
We're way better than City.

Our form is terrible but we simply have much better players.

Class is permanent.
 

Tyler

Active member
With RM it never matters how they play. Remember last time they won the CL?

1-1 at home against Leipzig with 11 vs. 20 shots.

Rescued a draw to penalties against Man City (33 vs. 8 shots).

Then got an easy final against Dortmund under Terzic who finished 5th in Bundesliga that season.

Winning CLs while playing like shit is in their DNA.

But they had ballers like Kroos and Modric to get them over the line.

I don't see any chemistry between Mbappe, Bellingham and Vinicius which is going to be a big problem for them. They'll beat lesser teams just through individual quality alone, but it won't be enough against the top European sides.
 

Temptation

Well-known member
But they had ballers like Kroos and Modric to get them over the line.

I don't see any chemistry between Mbappe, Bellingham and Vinicius which is going to be a big problem for them. They'll beat lesser teams just through individual quality alone, but it won't be enough against the top European sides.
Mbappe can singlehandedly win knockout games if he turns up.

Bellingham has fantastic match winning ability too.
 

Andresito

Senior Member
Staff member
The match winner thing favours physical players because that type of football is played when teams are chasing goals. Crosses and long shots. Jude is good at getting to chances which are scored with one touch, be it a tap in or header.

Goes to show how narrow minded the reasoning is. Player can be crap most game, even worse for a midfielder, and score a header at the end and become man of the match and 89 minutes are forgotten. Jude is logically a bigger match winner than Pedri in that case, but who is really the better player? Match winner is not that big of a factor when comparing players. Luuk de Jong proved to be a clutch match winner for us.

Kind of like how Fati saying that he would choose CR to score a goal at the end of a game. The plan should be to not get into that desperate situation in the first place, to have players who can create and dictate during 90 minutes, not stink up the place all game and then try to force endless crosses into a goal.
 

Gaudi

Senior Member
What I liked watching Bayern is no crap or no reinventing wheels type of football. They play quite fast, dynamic, move as a unit, compact and that's it. With that type of play they play to their strength, they isolate wingers allowing them freedom to attack and dribble, they play close lines allowing midfielders open solution, and with compact lines allowing defenders easier time.
We did improve our attack fluidity with Flick (not currently but in general). Our midfielders and wingers looked crap playing slow static football but when we play fast we score for fun. But, it is like a strange fetish that every coach want's to reinvent football when he is in Barca so we play this crazy type of defending. Notice yesterday how Bayern can also play high line when needed or when attacking part is pressing high. With that they keep compact lines but those lines move back if needed.
Now to our way of defending. Opposition easily breaks our low intensity press and has 5 bodies close to mid line with our defenders half a meter from them. Now they have 5 or more bodies with tons of space to run to and we either manage to catch them offside or it is 1 on 1 vs goalie. Maybe we should reinvent even further - we could try playing without goalie all together.
 

Temptation

Well-known member
You can control games with and without the ball based on tactics, system, personnel and the manager. Useless possession doesn't necessarily mean control. Only progressive possession based patterns of play counts. You can control games sitting in a low block without the ball too.
 

Tyler

Active member
The match winner thing favours physical players because that type of football is played when teams are chasing goals. Crosses and long shots. Jude is good at getting to chances which are scored with one touch, be it a tap in or header.

Goes to show how narrow minded the reasoning is. Player can be crap most game, even worse for a midfielder, and score a header at the end and become man of the match and 89 minutes are forgotten. Jude is logically a bigger match winner than Pedri in that case, but who is really the better player? Match winner is not that big of a factor when comparing players. Luuk de Jong proved to be a clutch match winner for us.

Kind of like how Fati saying that he would choose CR to score a goal at the end of a game. The plan should be to not get into that desperate situation in the first place, to have players who can create and dictate during 90 minutes, not stink up the place all game and then try to force endless crosses into a goal.

Why would anyone even compare Bellingham and Pedri? They have completely different strengths to each other. It's like comparing Kane to Mbappe.

Also implying he only scores tap ins and headers is biased Barca nonsense.
 

Temptation

Well-known member
Bellingham's quality on the ball is criminally underrated here.

You'd think he's Moussa Sissoko by the way people talk about him. :lol:

That assist in the El Clasico isn't possible without good technical ability and vision. He's a very complete player with numerous attributes.
 

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