Champions League 25/26

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Maradona37

Well-known member
Hes not better than them. But all of them are miles better than Pavlovic, who is a good prospect, but Christ, he's still not even a regular for either his club or country yet.
Rashford was a regular at a much worse club than Bayern, and can't even hold down a regular England spot despite being much older than pavlovic.

At least try to be consistent in the criteria you use to rate players.
 

Maradona37

Well-known member
Saying Pavlovic is better than Rice right now is laughable.
If Jair said that I don't agree. But you laughed at Pavolvic. And tbh, I think you're underrating Pavlovic.

If he was English you'd rate him more. Your MO seems to be to champion anything English on here. I like you and agree with you on a lot of stuff but I have never seen you put down an English player.
 

Jair Ventura

Well-known member
At first I thought you were just a troll. But you're actually just clueless.

Now go to bed and dont forget to pack your sandwiches and milk in the morning.

Pavlovic isn't a regular, yet has played 65+ minutes(typically 90) in 8 of his last 10 matches he's been available for club & country, but I'm the troll? Mind you, he plays for Bayern Munich & the German national team.
 

Tyler

Active member
Rashford was a regular at a much worse club than Bayern, and can't even hold down a regular England spot despite being much older than pavlovic.

At least try to be consistent in the criteria you use to rate players.

You're obsessed with Rashford. What is the point you're even trying to make?

Pavlovic has 7 caps for Germany. 7. He's 21. He has less than 50 appearances for Bayern, with plenty of them as a sub. To even compare him right now to a seasoned midfielder like Rice is insane. And let's not pretend Germany are even grest these days. They've done absolutely nothing for years.
 

Jair Ventura

Well-known member
You're obsessed with Rashford. What is the point you're even trying to make?

Pavlovic has 7 caps for Germany. 7. He's 21. He has less than 50 appearances for Bayern, with plenty of them as a sub. To even compare him right now to a seasoned midfielder like Rice is insane. And let's not pretend Germany are even grest these days. They've done absolutely nothing for years.

He played 90 minutes twice for Germany over the last international break
 

Tyler

Active member
If Jair said that I don't agree. But you laughed at Pavolvic. And tbh, I think you're underrating Pavlovic.

If he was English you'd rate him more. Your MO seems to be to champion anything English on here. I like you and agree with you on a lot of stuff but I have never seen you put down an English player.

Not really. Pavlovic isn't better than Rice and that's all there is to it. Maybe in 3 or 4 years he could be, but nobody can say for sure. Not every player improves season upon season. Then you can obviously have bad luck with injuries.

I actually follow the Bundesliga more than the Premier League, and League One in England more than the Premier League. Am I somehow super biased to England because I highly rate Kane and Palmer? Or think that Rashford will do better for Barcelona than some would have predicted? I dont see it.
 

Tyler

Active member
He played 90 minutes twice for Germany over the last international break

So at 21 he won his 6th and 7th cap. Brilliant. Now compare with Bellingham who at 22 has won not too far off 50 caps for his country. A country that has been doing considerably better than Germany over the last 10 years because it's far stronger.
 

Jair Ventura

Well-known member
Not really. Pavlovic isn't better than Rice and that's all there is to it. Maybe in 3 or 4 years he could be, but nobody can say for sure. Not every player improves season upon season. Then you can obviously have bad luck with injuries.

I actually follow the Bundesliga more than the Premier League, and League One in England more than the Premier league. Am I somehow super biased to England because I highly rate Kane and Palmer? Or think that Rashford will do better for Barcelona than some would have predicted? I dont see it.

It’s seems lost on you that being a regular for Bayern speaks more to a players quality than being a regular for Arsenal
 

Jair Ventura

Well-known member
So at 21 he won his 6th and 7th cap. Brilliant. Now compare with Bellingham who at 22 has won not too far off 50 caps for his country. A country that has been doing considerably better than Germany over the last 10 years.

You claimed he wasn’t a regular when he is. I don’t know why you’re deflecting to Bellingham, Straw Man.
 

Maradona37

Well-known member
Not really. Pavlovic isn't better than Rice and that's all there is to it. Maybe in 3 or 4 years he could be, but nobody can say for sure. Not every player improves season upon season. Then you can obviously have bad luck with injuries.

I actually follow the Bundesliga more than the Premier League, and League One in England more than the Premier League. Am I somehow super biased to England because I highly rate Kane and Palmer? Or think that Rashford will do better for Barcelona than some would have predicted? I dont see it.
My contention is that Pav isn't better now, but might be in future. On that we align.

I also agree with you on most English players - it's more your ultra positive slant than the fact you rate them.
 

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