Yannik
Senior Member
That isnt exclusively a Bundesliga phenomen though.
Noone in spain rejects Barca or Madrid either. Its normal for a small club anywhere, to be kinda exploited by bigger teams at some point. Southhampton, for example.
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That isnt exclusively a Bundesliga phenomen though.
Noone in spain rejects Barca or Madrid either. Its normal for a small club anywhere, to be kinda exploited by bigger teams at some point. Southhampton, for example.
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Ryu Hayabusa
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Don't know, yet it sure as shit wouldn't make a whole lot of sense as his contract expire right afterwards anyways. How can you sack someone who is gonna leave anyways?
Luftstalag14
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Yes, but much less of a problem in England and Spain where there are several elite clubs with similar financial clout.
I think to begin with, Bundesliga already suffers from a disadvantage compared to the EPL and La Liga in terms of marketing its brand overseas, that is language/cultural influences. The EPL has the best thing in the world - the English language at its disposal, the marketability is huge. La Liga has big followings in Spanish-speaking countries such as Latin America and increasingly in the US among the Hispanics. Even Ligue 1 has good followings in Africa I heard. Bundesliga? Nein. The best it can do is to play awesome football which it does but the lack of competition and suspense is really undermining its potential abroad, me thinks.
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Ryu Hayabusa
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Well, I'm sorry our cultural and technological enrichment of the rest of the globe in form of 16 to 19th century imperialism wasn't as fruitful as that of the British, Spanish and French. We were busy trying to become a nation and deciding the fate of the various forms of Christianity.
serghei
Senior Member
It is. You give the Spain example, but the thing is Barcelona doesn't buy Real's best players or vice-versa. When that happened, a war started (see Figo). You don't see City or United buying Chelsea's best players, Hazard for example. That's because City, United and Chelsea are teams who are as strong financially. Not even in Italy do you see high-profile transfers being made between teams like Milan, Juve and Inter. In Germany this odd thing happens, in the sense that whatever top players Bundesliga has, they usually end up in Munich. Bayern does not have a real rival in that league. Their rivals come and go based on form, no one goes toe to toe with Bayern in the long run.
In Spain there's Barcelona and Real Madrid, in Italy there's Juve, Milan and Inter. In Germany there's Bayern and... who?
I'm cursious, what's the german equivalent of El Clasico, or Derby de la Madonnina, or Old Firm?
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Ryu Hayabusa
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Yeah, and what is the alternative to the best players ending up at Bayern (which is a huge exaggeration btw)? The best players leaving the league.
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Sterlingfan2000
Active member
The league Needs Oil Money and rich Owners. Simple as that, england had the same Problem 2004 and the Fa reacted. The same needs to be done in Germany. In italy it also worked, so why not in Germany
KingMessi
SiempreBlaugrana
Der Klassiker?
KingLeo10
Senior Member
that term only gained any sort of traction after dortmund and bayern beat out the spanish duo a few years ago in CL...
serghei
Senior Member
Yannik
Senior Member
Those examples worked, because you picked out only the working examples.
Has Barca bought players from Madrid? No, (and they probably couldnt if they wanted to).
Have they bought players from Atletico or Sevilla? Yes.
Would you say that Sevilla never had the potential to become a big team if they kept their players, and it was therefor ok to steal these players and that you werent weakening competition at that point?
Have City or United bought players from Chelsea? No, okay maybe Mata.
Have City or United bought players from Liverpool, Arsenal or Southampton that was a hot club at that point etc? Yes, a motherfucking lot.
Every 5 years or so, Bayern buys 2-3 players from a better-playing rival. Thats basically less or just as much as teams like United, City, Dortmund or even Barca do.
Of course you will tell me that Sevilla doesnt count, because they are no title aspirant. Question is: Would they have been a title aspirants by now, if they had been able to hold their players? I think they'd be some sick squad at this point (even with the sales, they are already not doing too bad). So yes, that definitely counts aswell.
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Ryu Hayabusa
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Yeah, there really was a plethora of different champions in Italy over the past 5 years...
KingMessi
SiempreBlaugrana
Dortmund had 6 titles up until two years ago.
Hey man, they're tied with Monchengladbach as the second most successful team in the Bundesliga.
Also they have 5 titles total to Bayern's 24.
serghei
Senior Member
Those examples worked, because you picked out only the working examples.
Has Barca bought players from Madrid? No, (and they probably couldnt if they wanted to).
Have they bought players from Sevilla? Yes.
Would you say that Sevilla never had the potential to become a big team if they kept their players, and it was therefor ok to steal these players and that you werent weakening competition at that point?
Have City or United bought players from Chelsea? No, okay maybe Mata.
Have City or United bought players from Liverpool, Arsenal or Southampton that was a hot club at that point etc? Yes, a motherfucking lot.
Every 5 years or so, Bayern buys 2-3 players from a better-playing rival. Thats basically less or just as much as teams like United, City, Dortmund or even Barca do.
Of course you will tell me that Sevilla doesnt count, because they are no title aspirant. Question is: Would they have been a title aspirant if they had been able to hold their players? I think they'd be some sick squad at this point.
You're missing the point. Barcelona HAS Real Madrid. Give me a team from Bundesliga that is for Bayern what Real Madrid is for Barcelona (or vice versa). There isn't one.
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