Basketball/NBA

[khaled_a_d]

Mavs had 16 lottery participations before, never moved up once. It is long overdue.

But to say it us suspicious, is understatement.

I was expecting a top 4 pick, not Copper Fuckin Flagg. Let's hope that Nico is just Xenophobe and not racist. Because it was known he would try to use the pick for KD.

 

[jamrock]

If it was rigged it wouldn't be for the mavs, if anything it would be the 76ers..

But I haven't watched the NBA is two years so what do I know.

 

[Windhook]

The draft feels staged some years to up ratings of the league. Like Wemby to San Antonio Spurs as it was planned in advance, now Adam Silver compensating Nico for the Doncic deal. Dallas had 1,8% chance. Come on, bro.

LeBron to Cleveland in 2003 was a fairy tale restart of the franchise drafting the local wonderkid.

 

[jamrock]

They will absolutely love a player called cooper flagg in Texas though, their isn't a much more conservative white name than that lol.

 

[khaled_a_d]

Btw, I don't think that was rigged from the got to go, Nico was an idiot who really wanted Davis over Luka and he has done this deal without the league interference.

It is just the Mavs have build a big fanbase, especially internationaly, that you can't lose them thanks to one idiotic decision. Not with new owners who are deep in gambling (which the league is promoting heavily) who are one of the wealthiest families in the league and the closest to the current president.

The league just had to bail them out.

 

[FCBfan22]

The league just had to bail them out.

Exactly. This seems like it's rigged to bail Adelsons out of Nico's stupidity. If Adelsons have any braincells, they would get a new sporting director and start over.

If Nico stays, than I think this is of league's doing.

 

[khaled_a_d]

Nici won't be fired since his firing won't bring Luka back and he is close to Dumont.

I think they will bring someone like Lindsey, who was running things before and buil

 

[TheStig]

It's hard to belive that this was rigged from the start. At the time of the trade everybody thought that Dallas will be at least in the playoffs so they wouldn't be part of the lottery.

 

[khaled_a_d]

If it was rigged it wouldn't be for the mavs, if anything it would be the 76ers..

But I haven't watched the NBA is two years so what do I know.

Why the Sixers? Dallas is USA 4th biggest market, and the one that is growing the most in top 20 markets in USA. Philly is 9th.

Both aren't basketball cities but football ones. Sixers has bigger history but it is ancient at this points, and they live in the shadows of the Knicks. They had a home game were knocks fans were more than their own in the last playoffs.

 

[Windhook]

Sixers had their run in the 2010's with back to back no.1 drafts, the Process that blew in their face in the end.

It's hard for me to believe NBA compensates Mavs for being the 4-5th largest TV market and the stupidity of their GM Nico. The same guy that assembled, moved pieces around and reached the NBA finals last season. Dallas has seen lows before, so has Houston and other big markets. The greatest of them, New York Knicks would have been taken care of long time ago, if that was the case. Instead they had to slowly build a team brick by brick to reach this stage - on the verge of eliminating the reigning Celtics.

I stick with my original suspicions from 3 months ago, all due respect to Mavs, this is no compensation, but part of the NBA-Lakers-TV ratings deal.

 

[khaled_a_d]

Sixers had their run in the 2010's with back to back no.1 drafts, the Process that blew in their face in the end.

It's hard for me to believe NBA compensates Mavs for being the 4-5th largest TV market and the stupidity of their GM Nico. The same guy that assembled, moved pieces around and reached the NBA finals last season. Dallas has seen lows before, so has Houston and other big markets. The greatest of them, New York Knicks would have been taken care of long time ago, if that was the case. Instead they had to slowly build a team brick by brick to reach this stage - on the verge of eliminating the reigning Celtics.

I stick with my original suspicions from 3 months ago, all due respect to Mavs, this is no compensation, but part of the NBA-Lakers-TV ratings deal.

The only reason the Mavs had lottery picks was both Kyrie and AD getting injured. They had several opportunity to tank and go as low 8th and they competed. The franchise didn't want it.

Nico didn't assemble shit, it was Dennis Lindsey who did it as "consultant", he was with the Spurs as assistant GM hen they drafted Kawhi an drebuild around their big 3, then he joined Utah, rebuild their Franchise out of nothing while drafting Mitchel and Gobert with late picks. He joined the Mavs and they did the right moves, he joined Detroit and they changed their fortune.
Dennis Lindsey left and Mavs became absolute shit of board management.

 

[El Flaco]

NBA has to be rigged, because this is too many coincidences.

The NBA gifted Cavs three consecutive #1 overall after LeBron left them.

 

[FCBfan22]

The NBA gifted Cavs three consecutive #1 overall after LeBron left them.

That too. And the Wemby draft last year to San Antonio.

The non-televised draw is suspect AF.

 

[khaled_a_d]

The draw happens live with representatives of all 14 teams and journalists. And aired after the announcement, you can see any of them on YouTube.

Those in the room aren't allowed any communication with the outside, because the lottery announcement brings some ratings to network and it looks better the other way.

 

[Windhook]

I asked ChatGPT to provide a breakdown of the NBA Draft winners of the last 35 years.

Year	Team	Odds (%)	Player Selected
2025	Dallas Mavericks	1.8	TBD
2024	Atlanta Hawks	3.0	Zaccharie Risacher
2023	San Antonio Spurs	14.0	Victor Wembanyama
2022	Orlando Magic	14.0	Paolo Banchero
2021	Detroit Pistons	14.0	Cade Cunningham
2020	Minnesota Timberwolves	14.0	Anthony Edwards
2019	New Orleans Pelicans	6.0	Zion Williamson
2018	Phoenix Suns	25.0	Deandre Ayton
2017	Philadelphia 76ers	25.0	Markelle Fultz
2016	Philadelphia 76ers	25.0	Ben Simmons
2015	Minnesota Timberwolves	25.0	Karl-Anthony Towns
2014	Cleveland Cavaliers	1.7	Andrew Wiggins
2013	Cleveland Cavaliers	15.6	Anthony Bennett
2012	New Orleans Hornets	13.7	Anthony Davis
2011	Cleveland Cavaliers	19.9	Kyrie Irving
2010	Washington Wizards	10.3	John Wall
2009	Los Angeles Clippers	17.7	Blake Griffin
2008	Chicago Bulls	1.7	Derrick Rose
2007	Portland Trail Blazers	5.3	Greg Oden
2006	Toronto Raptors	8.8	Andrea Bargnani
2005	Milwaukee Bucks	6.3	Andrew Bogut
2004	Orlando Magic	25.0	Dwight Howard
2003	Cleveland Cavaliers	22.5	LeBron James
2002	Houston Rockets	8.9	Yao Ming
2001	Washington Wizards	15.7	Kwame Brown
2000	New Jersey Nets	4.4	Kenyon Martin
1999	Chicago Bulls	15.6	Elton Brand
1998	Los Angeles Clippers	22.5	Michael Olowokandi
1997	San Antonio Spurs	21.6	Tim Duncan
1996	Philadelphia 76ers	9.4	Allen Iverson
1995	Golden State Warriors	9.4	Joe Smith
1994	Milwaukee Bucks	16.7	Glenn Robinson
1993	Orlando Magic	1.5	Chris Webber
1992	Orlando Magic	15.2	Shaquille O'Neal
1991	Charlotte Hornets	11.9	Larry Johnson
1990	New Jersey Nets	11.9	Derrick Coleman

Those 1% odd winners are in most cases NBA board engineering franchises. It was normal in the early 90s after the massive expansion from 1989. Shaquille O'Neal became a huge star and instant success, I could understand the Orlando Magic given the boost. In just 3 years they reached the NBA finals in 1995, lost to Houston Rockets. 2003 LeBron was clear where he's heading. It wasn't the Toronto Raptors.

Derrick Rose was a huge hype, a Chicago local and drafted by the Chicago Bulls was lightning strike twice. Then Cleveland post-LeBron, Kyrie and Bennett were fair draw as Cavs sucked, but Andrew Wiggins was "luck". So much luck that LeBron told Pat Riley: "Next year I'm taking my talents back to Forest City".

No point in discussing Sixers back to back to back tanking to get draft picks.

Now another iceberg, might even call it the butterfly effect - in 2012 NO Hornets (future Pelicans) were awarded Anthony Davis in compensation for the Chris Paul shitfuckery. 7 years later LeBron lured Davis to demand trade and as a result joined him at the Lakers. The deal was piss poor for Pelicans who got some bunch of average inexperienced players like Lonzo Ball. Sounds familiar, right? Guess what? The biggest hype since LeBron, Zion Williamson got drafted by the Pelicans that same year. But NBA didn't take into account Zion's reluctance to play for the Pelicans. The New York Knicks tanked so bad they were dead last in Eastern Conference just to get Zion. It would have been a story for the ages, but no LeBron needed help at the Lakers. In a way this Lakers - Pelicans deal led to Zion's obesity and lack of fitness that ended his career.