Barca Transfers and Rumors

[khaled_a_d]

Just for the record, Diaz and Nico Williams have a very similar profile which means we are a bit consistent. The main differences is age (5 years difference is major factor) and the role and style of play they are playing in.

Both will fit in easy, Nico is Spanish NT player so he knows half the team, Diaz is a Spanish speaking player who had experience in German style under Klopp, and in a slower league like the Portuguese.

I suspect that if the rumours are true, it means it is cost issue. It is more about Nico not willing to facilitate the deal, while Diaz is willing to.

 

[Porque]

Just for the record, Diaz and Nico Williams have a very similar profile which means we are a bit consistent. The main differences is age (5 years difference is major factor) and the role and style of play they are playing in.

Both will fit it easy, Nico is Spanish NT player so he knows half the team, Diaz is a Spanish speaking player who had experience in German style under Klopp, and in slower league like the Portuguese.

I suspect that if the rumours are true, it means it is cost issue. It is more about Nico not willing to facilitate the deal, while Diaz is willing to.

Wages too is a big difference. Unless we go crazy on the wage offer, which this club is totally able to, then Diaz should amortize much lower and thus be potentially able to ship over to Saudi in a couple years time.

Diaz reported gross is 2.5m pounds. A sane economic board would double that and still be well below Nico's amortization. Knowing us we will atleast triple that given what we done with Ferran.

 

[vuji_31]

Wages too is a big difference. Unless we go crazy on the wage offer, which this club is totally able to, then Diaz should amortize much lower and thus be potentially able to ship over to Saudi in a couple years time.

Diaz reported gross is 2.5m pounds. A sane economic board would double that and still be well below Nico's amortization. Knowing us we will atleast triple that given what we done with Ferran.

they actually gave him 4x better salery.

 

[Porque]

they actually gave him 4x better salery.

Thank F for Flick coming and extracting some of that back!

 

[draconifire]

Put in a cheeky bid of 40m to Vardrid for Rodrygo and see the world burn.
And 20 for Nunez. No else needs to be touched from Pool.

 

[jamrock]

Diaz is a good player, I always liked him.

But signing him at 29, would mean deco when finally given some cash to spend, lacks imagination.

And if you're gonna lack imagination, then sign Williams who has much more upside.

 

[jamrock]

That being said, just to try to find a positive to signing Diaz over Williams.

It could be the club trying to show players that Barca is fully back, and the Barca train only comes around once, so if it stops for you, players have to make sure they hop on because it's not coming back again.

With few exceptions, Williams should be one btw, but if thats what the club is going for, I can accept it.

 

[Porque]

That being said, just to try to find a positive to signing Diaz over Williams.

It could be the club trying to show players that Barca is fully back, and the Barca train only comes around once, so if it stops for you, players have to make sure they hop on because it's not coming back again.

With few exceptions, Williams should be one btw, but if thats what the club is going for, I can accept it.

Could also be that Madrid for Nico is genuine, and we are not in for him coz we already lost him.

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I would be surprised if Nico didn't want to stay this season to play CL for Bilbao though. Next summer is best for him to move.

There is nothing more, within logical feasibility, to achieve with Bilbao.

 

[Messi983]

Well, reports today are saying we're considering Diaz over Nico because we already have enough kids and want more players in their prime years who can contribute immediately. Hard to disagree with that though obviously Nico would do that as well. But fair to say he's also still a work in progress. Versatility or Diaz's ability to play as a false 9 this season is another reason mentioned but not sure how much Flick really wants to use a false 9 and we have players capable of playing that role already on the team too.

I don't really believe a big money LW (not saying we shouldn't improve depth there but that can be done a lot cheaper) should be a priority when we have needs at other positons (striker, depth at FB) that I would prefer to address before but if the club thinks so then Diaz for 40-50m wouldn't be end of the world (don't really want to pay more though). He could give us 3-4 good seasons and then can probably ship him off to Saudis for not much financial loss.

One problem I see is Diaz is same age as Raphinha (well, a month younger) and there is a good possibility both of them will start to decline at same time and there will be no contingency plan unless we really believe one of the kids like Virgili or Dani can make it longterm (personally I don't but hope to be wrong). So from that perspective prefer someone younger who could start building chemistry with Lamine (and from 2026 on hopefully a new striker).

But for once I'd like Barca to be flexible on the market and have options. Not just go after "their guy" and end up overpaying (or alternatively sign nobody and have a hole in the team). Set a price how far you're willing to go for a player, negotiate for a few weeks early in TW and if no progress just go to your plan B, C, D. And maybe we'll end up signing Ronaldinho instead of Beckham again.

 

[jamrock]

Could also be that Madrid for Nico is genuine, and we are not in for him coz we already lost him.

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I would be surprised if Nico didn't want to stay this season to play CL for Bilbao though. Next summer is best for him to move.

There is nothing more, within logical feasibility, to achieve with Bilbao.

Yes, he has no reason to leave Bilbao outside of ambition, really.

His brother had opportunities to leave when he was at his best and chose to stay; maybe he'll do the same.

By all indications, he is on a good salary and has a guaranteed starting position.

Maybe he is thinking that this season he was always carrying an injury, the same for Sancet; maybe if they are both fully fit, Athletic can make some noise, and he wants to see how it plays out.

All of this is trying to see it from his perspective, but from a neutral POV, he should leave, if not here, then somewhere else..not named Madrid including atleti lol

 

[jamrock]

Well, reports today are saying we're considering Diaz over Nico because we already have enough kids and want more players in their prime years who can contribute immediately. Hard to disagree with that though obviously Nico would do that as well. But fair to say he's also still a work in progress. Versatility or Diaz's ability to play as a false 9 this season is another reason mentioned but not sure how much Flick really wants to use a false 9 and we have players capable of playing that role already on the team too.

I don't really believe a big money LW (not saying we shouldn't improve depth there but that can be done a lot cheaper) should be a priority when we have needs at other positons (striker, depth at FB) that I would prefer to address before but if the club thinks so then Diaz for 40-50m wouldn't be end of the world (don't really want to pay more though). He could give us 3-4 good seasons and then can probably ship him off to Saudis for not much financial loss.

One problem I see is Diaz is same age as Raphinha (well, a month younger) and there is a good possibility both of them will start to decline at same time and there will be no contingency plan unless we really believe one of the kids like Virgili or Dani can make it longterm (personally I don't but hope to be wrong). So from that perspective prefer someone younger who could start building chemistry with Lamine (and from 2026 on hopefully a new striker).

But for once I'd like Barca to be flexible on the market and have options. Not just go after "their guy" and end up overpaying (or alternatively sign nobody and have a hole in the team). Set a price how far you're willing to go for a player, negotiate for a few weeks early in TW and if no progress just go to your plan B, C, D. And maybe we'll end up signing Ronaldinho instead of Beckham again.

I agree, also understand the reasoning in wanting to sign Diaz.

But like you I don't see the value in having two players who are the same age on the LW.

With Williams you know he will fully take over from raph in a season or two.

Instead we'll be back in the market for a LW in a few seasons.

 

[ab739]

Losing Nico to Madrid would spell disaster for us with a coach that knows what he's doing. Imagine a Frontline of mbappe, Vinicius, and Williams against our cinder blocks in the back. They were eating us up last Classico until they decided to park the bus for some reason.

 

[Messi983]

Losing Nico to Madrid would spell disaster for us with a coach that knows what he's doing. Imagine a Frontline of mbappe, Vinicius, and Williams against our cinder blocks in the back. They were eating us up last Classico until they decided to park the bus for some reason.

Do not worry, we have this under control.

 

[FinBarcelonafan]

EPL islander fans don't have a clue about foreign football.

We've just won the treble and made close to a billion Euros and they still think we 'don't have a pot to piss in'.

Can't wait for the hypocritical uproar when we buy a player.

" I thought they were broke " , "Pulled another lever no doubt", and the best one, " Barca obviously don't have to respect FFP" the EPL neanderthal said as he dragged his knuckles across the ground.

Jealousy talk. Liverpool fans know Barca is more attractive club than they are. That's why usually we take their best players.

 

[FinBarcelonafan]

Diaz is a good player, I always liked him.

But signing him at 29, would mean deco when finally given some cash to spend, lacks imagination.

And if you're gonna lack imagination, then sign Williams who has much more upside.

Exactly. Even if Williams costs more, he will have more resale value in few years because the age. Much better deal.