Ballon d'Or 2025

Jair Ventura

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At this point you will just say anything to help your case

There is no universe in which Ligue 1 is ahead of La Liga

And no La Liga is not poor outside big 2. Atletico is very much a serious side. Villarrral was in CL semis 3 years ago. Had good results in Europa. Betis in conference league. Sevilla in Europa too. And muuuch much more

Meanwhile in France outside of PSG nobody does anything on the big stage. Lyon and Monaco had some solid little runs in UCL but that's about it

I suppose you can deflect, but the reality is La Liga isn't very good outside of Madrid and Barcelona. And La Masia aside, the competition isn't even producing top players anymore.

This universe, today. Ligue 1 produces far more players and at a higher level, so on average, its teams are better from top to bottom. It's why Mbappé suddenly looks like R9 this season, he now gets to play the farmers of Elche and Espanyol on a weekly basis.
 
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serghei

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I suppose you can deflect, but the reality is La Liga isn't very good outside of Madrid and Barcelona. Outside of La Masia, the competition isn't even producing top players anymore.

This universe, today. Ligue 1 produces far better players and at a higher level, so on average, its teams are better from top to bottom. It's why Mbappé suddenly looks like R9 this season, he now gets to play the farmers of Elche and Espanyol on a weekly basis.

If La Liga has 2 elite sides, and Ligue 1 has one, then math says Spanish League is 100% better.
 

Windhook

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He also said Barcelona was his dreamclub and was happy to get to play there.
That's okay, missed TV translation. But his actions proved otherwise and remember the contract renewal drama. You don't sign a 60m release clause with your dream club in this age.

He was at Barca to play alongside Messi. That's all.
 

Jair Ventura

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Mostly french players? ok? Dembele, Doue, Barcola(benchwarmer) and... who?

We have 9 French players: Dembelé, Barcola(French international, as productive as Lamine last season), Doué, WZE(titi), Mayulu(titi), Mbaye(titi), Noham Kamara(titi), Lucas Hernandez, Lucas Chevalier.

We're more French than Madrid is Spanish
 

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