Ballon d'Or 2025

[serghei]

I just realized I compared Barca with Haas F1 team. I meant Ferrari.

 

[MonteCuler]

But it's justified that he lost.

Maybe according to these new bdor standards and demands

But then clearly the standards are fucked up

It should be given to the best performing player. Of course who won something but not that everything comes down to trophies like it did this year

 

[RedxMAK]

What's my favour? I knew in late May Dembouz will get the award and it's deserved. I know the pattern of BdO for the last 20 years.

My translation feed in French was "Iniesta and Messi whom taught me a lot". If Andres Iniesta wasn't present he wouldn't have mentioned him at all, I'd bet on that. When Iniesta left the club, Dembele was still on crutches. The cameras then turned on Iniesta, who had no reaction. Next frame Laporta with half-ass smile.

In fact the person who brought Dembele back to life was Ronald Koeman. Since then he's been relatively healthy and progressing.

Ngl I saw that Xavi had the biggest effect on Dembele than any other coach in Barcelona. He took him from zero to hero, from getting booed against Bilbao to getting a standing ovation against Sociedad less than a year later.

 

[Maradona37]

It's not about no damn corner lol. Individual awards only have one real merit. To make the players work harder and harder to get their team to the top.

Why the hell would people want Yamal to win some luxury posh award without Barca winning the CL first beats me. Fecked up.

Individual awards in team sports are subjective and utterly, utterly meaningless. They're not objective like team trophies.

it's a new, modern fan thing because of M and R and the internet and stats. Nobody cared who won BD or WPOTY in the 80s and 90s.

 

[Jair Ventura]

33+13=46

18+21=39

46-39=7

Like I said... 7 g/a, when you consider the leagues these two are playing, is hardly a difference at all

Dembelé plays in a tougher, more physical league, so being more productive despite this only helps his case. We all know La Liga is poor outside of RM and FCB.

 

[MonteCuler]

Dembelé plays in a tougher, more physical league, so being more productive despite this only helps his case. We all know La Liga is poor outside of RM and FCB.

At this point you will just say anything to help your case

There is no universe in which Ligue 1 is ahead of La Liga

And no La Liga is not poor outside big 2. Atletico is very much a serious side. Villarrral was in CL semis 3 years ago. Had good results in Europa. Betis in conference league. Sevilla in Europa too. And muuuch much more

Meanwhile in France outside of PSG nobody does anything on the big stage. Lyon and Monaco had some solid little runs in UCL but that's about it

 

[Horatio]

Ngl I saw that Xavi had the biggest effect on Dembele than any other coach in Barcelona. He took him from zero to hero, from getting booed against Bilbao to getting a standing ovation against Sociedad less than a year later.

Dembele selfadmitted that Koeman was the coacht that turned things around for him.

 

[vegitot]

Maybe according to these new bdor standards and demands

But then clearly the standards are fucked up

It should be given to the best performing player. Of course who won something but not that everything comes down to trophies like it did this year

Tbf they did mention there are 3 main criterias: Individual performance, team success and fair play.

Yamal beat Dembele when it comes to individual quaility. Dembele beat Yamal when it comes to team success.

Qsg won their first UCL and treble just give Dembele more votes.

Barca didn't play in CWC also may hurt Yamal's chance a bit.

 

[serghei]

Maybe according to these new bdor standards and demands

But then clearly the standards are fucked up

It should be given to the best performing player. Of course who won something but not that everything comes down to trophies like it did this year

But it's almost impossible to do that when the players are close.

Jorginho won CL + Euro and he did not win.

Dembele played great when it mattered. His individual performances were also top marks.

I blame Lucho for this. Our legends keep disappointing us.

Birdy's darling Pochettino at PSG instead of Lucho and Lamine is polishing that golden ball as we speak.

 

[Horatio]

What's my favour? I knew in late May Dembouz will get the award and it's deserved. I know the pattern of BdO for the last 20 years.

My translation feed in French was "Iniesta and Messi whom taught me a lot". If Andres Iniesta wasn't present he wouldn't have mentioned him at all, I'd bet on that. When Iniesta left the club, Dembele was still on crutches. The cameras then turned on Iniesta, who had no reaction. Next frame Laporta with half-ass smile.

In fact the person who brought Dembele back to life was Ronald Koeman. Since then he's been relatively healthy and progressing.

He also said Barcelona was his dreamclub and was happy to get to play there.

 

[vegitot]

Dembelé plays in a tougher, more physical league, so being more productive despite this only helps his case. We all know La Liga is poor outside of RM and FCB.

Name me the last French side that won European tittle, immediately without google.

 

[Maradona37]

Name me the last French side that won European tittle, immediately without google.

Marseille are the only one in 93 to win CL other than PSG. And that is shrouded in controversy due to Bernard Tapie. Rangers still hate them.

 

[vegitot]

Dembele selfadmitted that Koeman was the coacht that turned things around for him.

He was healthier in that Koeman's season but still inconsistent and average. It was until Xavi's time he completely transformed.

And then Lucho.

 

[Maradona37]

@Maradona37 do you believe me?

yes

I don't know them all, but a lot.

I know every World Cup host and winner though. And I know just about all Euros hosts and winners or used to, forgot a bit now

 

[Jair Ventura]

At this point you will just say anything to help your case

There is no universe in which Ligue 1 is ahead of La Liga

And no La Liga is not poor outside big 2. Atletico is very much a serious side. Villarrral was in CL semis 3 years ago. Had good results in Europa. Betis in conference league. Sevilla in Europa too. And muuuch much more

Meanwhile in France outside of PSG nobody does anything on the big stage. Lyon and Monaco had some solid little runs in UCL but that's about it

I suppose you can deflect, but the reality is La Liga isn't very good outside of Madrid and Barcelona. And La Masia aside, the competition isn't even producing top players anymore.

This universe, today. Ligue 1 produces far more players and at a higher level, so on average, its teams are better from top to bottom. It's why Mbappé suddenly looks like R9 this season, he now gets to play the farmers of Elche and Espanyol on a weekly basis.