All time XI

[L3v1s]

Are these 11's based on peak or career of a player?

I see it as a mix of both honestly.

 

[Messigician]

In terms of winning every game at their absolute peak not hypothetical on paper teams

Cr7 Suarez
Messi
Viera Rijkaard
Maldini Beckenbauer Nesta Cafu
Neuer

 

[Andresito]

In terms of winning every game at their absolute peak not hypothetical on paper teams

Cr7 Suarez
Messi
Viera Rijkaard
Maldini Beckenbauer Nesta Cafu
Neuer

So good they play with 10 men?

 

[Morten]

I just dont see how R9 gets in here, peak level was very high, but was it really that much higher than someone like Pele?

R9 had an excellent career for Brazil, but his club record is far less impressive.

 

[Messigician]

So good they play with 10 men?

Xavi is there, he is just a magician so you can't see him

 

[L3v1s]

I just dont see how R9 gets in here, peak level was very high, but was it really that much higher than someone like Pele?

R9 had an excellent career for Brazil, but his club record is far less impressive.

I wouldn't say far less impressive. Look at my post on the previous page.

 

[Morten]

I wouldn't say far less impressive. Look at my post on the previous page.

I looked at it, it just not near his record for Brazil.

 

[Temptation]

In terms of winning every game at their absolute peak not hypothetical on paper teams

Cr7 Suarez
Messi
Viera Rijkaard
Maldini Beckenbauer Nesta Cafu
Neuer

Suarez? There's some serious Greek/Indian Masala drugs in play here.

 

[Messigician]

Suarez? There's some serious Greek/Indian Masala drugs in play here.

Yeah prime Suarez press like bulldog

 

[Temptation]

Yeah prime Suarez press like bulldog

Suarez above Pele, R9 and MVB? Come on now!

 

[Rory]

Pele Cruyff Messi
Maradona
Matthaus Xavi
Maldini Beckenbauer Baresi Cafu
Neuer
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[L3v1s]

I looked at it, it just not near his record for Brazil.

What exactly is far less impressive about it?

 

[Etoshow]

CR7/R10/Pelé - R9/Romario/Eto'o -Messi/Best/Eusebio

Maradona/Cruyff/Platini - Zidane/Iniesta/Pirlo
Matthaus/Xavi/Yaya Touré

Maldini/Roberto Carlos/Marcelo - Beckenbauer/Koeman/Ramos - Baresi/Puyol/Nesta - Cafu/Alves/Zambrotta

Neuer/Buffon/Yashin

I think those players fully deserve to be mentionned in the world XI because they changed the game. I could add people like Van Basten, Modriç, Zico, Salah, Kante or Makélélé but I think those in the team are the best.

If it was about each club's dreamteam, I think with an attack line like R10 - Eto'o - Messi and a miedfield with Xavi - Iniesta - Cruyff, not to mention Alves, Puyol and Koeman at the back, we've the best dreamteam possible.

 

[Morten]

What exactly is far less impressive about it?

Its a team game, but his trophy haul at club level is, well, poor, and he played for several top sides.

His record in UCL just isn't elite, he went missing a bunch for RM in the knockouts, that much i can remember.

Yes, he was over the hill by then, but still..

He was simply much more clutch for Brazil than he was most of his club career.

 

[L3v1s]

Its a team game, but his trophy haul at club level is, well, poor, and he played for several top sides.

His record in UCL just isn't elite, he went missing a bunch for RM in the knockouts, that much i can remember.

Yes, he was over the hill by then, but still..

He was simply much more clutch for Brazil than he was most of his club career.

That's not entirely his fault, I brought out the individual accolades because Temptation keeps saying how we always judge players by what they've won. The reason why he hasn't won more trophies(especially UCL) is the result of being at the wrong place(teams) and also INJURIES.

That 96/97 Barca team was not on the level of Cruyff's dream team, and when he joined Inter they haven't won a title in 10 years. Milan was having its best generation of all time during that period, and there was also Juventus.