9 - Robert Lewandowski

Maradona37

Well-known member
Zlatan and Kun don't even make the cut for me. Complete nobodies in pressure games in Europe.
Like Lewy then? One CL trophy during COVID and generally invisible in big CL knockout games (other than that one Dortmund-Real tie).

he's hardly been ultra-decisive himself. At least apply the criteria consistently.
 

Maradona37

Well-known member
When this guy scores 4 in a CL semis vs Real Madrid
That was one tie over a decade ago, and he's come nowhere close to that since.

He scored 40 goals because of Flick's system - I watched you a lot last season and he had loads of bad games - he's the type of footballers whose stats are much greater than his performances.

He also missed a lot of chances, including a sitter when he came on against Inter. Which gets ignored, because it's 'Lewa' and everyone loves him and protects him from criticism.
 

Maradona37

Well-known member
40 goals last season at 37. Damn hard one to achieve even in your 20s.
You are like most football fans - cannot see beyond stats.

He was woeful in a lot of games. And clearly Barca's system and exaggerated attacking potential inflated his stats. Raphinha's too.

It's a lot less black and white than you make it look.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
40 goals last season at 37. Damn hard one to achieve even in your 20s. He is simply an elite striker, even close to being finished he is still better than almost all other strikers.

Genuinely believe if you have Ferran on penalties and featuring v lower league teams in cups he would go close to that or 30+ at least.
 

serghei

Senior Member
If the criteria for legend is what done in Europe then Lewa has a long way to go to become one at Barca.

He has no goals or assists in his 6 of his last 7 CL knockout ties for Barca.

Not necessarily required for my personal ranking. 2 titles for Barcelona at the tail end of his career in which he was main scorer is notable.
 

Maradona37

Well-known member
Genuinely believe if you have Ferran on penalties and featuring v lower league teams in cups he would go close to that or 30+ at least.
So often players who aren't that great get exaggerated stats. We see it with Bruno Fernandes at Man United too.

It's often strength of team, or style of play, or everything going through the player, that accounts for stuff like that.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Genuinely believe if you have Ferran on penalties and featuring v lower league teams in cups he would go close to that or 30+ at least.

Yeah, but at this moment I have issues seeing Ferran scoring goals like the 2 vs Madrid or the Atletico 1-2 goal on Metropolitano, those are killer finishing, clinical stuff from him.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Not necessarily required for my personal ranking. 2 titles for Barcelona at the tail end of his career in which he was main scorer is notable.

It being tail end of his career shouldnt have any input really to him being a legend.

If Europe doesnt matter all that much then its different criteria to others.
 

Maradona37

Well-known member
He is simply an elite striker, even close to being finished he is still better than almost all other strikers.
Are you joking? He can hardly run and his first touch and hold up play are abysmal. Says a lot more about the dearth in quality of contemporary strikers than anything about him aged 37.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Yeah, but at this moment I have issues seeing Ferran scoring goals like the 2 vs Madrid or the Atletico 1-2 goal on Metropolitano, those are killer finishing, clinical stuff from him.

Ferran has better goals/assists per min v Real than Lewa I think and thats when include the least relevant games that Lewa has scored in the Supercopa.

Ferran equalised in final v them then got 3 assists in the game that decided league a few weeks later.
 

serghei

Senior Member
He missed two sitters vs Madrid after that in the same game. He gets loads of chances.

Yeah, after putting us in front 2-0, 2 expertly taken executions, 2nd one being a header they should teach in football academies. Back then the match very much in the balance, or vs Atletico, putting us back in the game at 0-2. He was instrumental last season.

You guys underrate his quality. Not everyone can have executions like those.
 

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