8 - Pedri
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Obviously he doesn't at 22, but he will by the time he is 32 or so
Maradona37
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He's the best in the world, but xavi and iniesta are greatest of all time midfielders..I think xavi is best ever and iniesta top 5 or 6...it's a big ask. Still think he's incredible though
MonteCuler
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Used to be a year ago. He hasn't played football a long time and now in CWC he didn't really look so sharp. We will see next season how he returns from ACL. Currently nobody is better than Pedri
serghei
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No he won't. Xavi and Iniesta basically ran football at all levels in their prime, complete monopoly in midfield no matter the opposition. 3 La Liga titles in a row, 2 Euros, 1 World Cup, 2 CLs in 4 years. All because nobody dared to attack Barca or Spain when they were running the show.
Gnidrologist
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The thing Pedri lacks is more teammates that has the same technique and quick thinking. I watched some old tikitaka videos on tube and the thing about that team is not just individual quality of all these guys, but how in sync they were. Nobody in todays football would have a chance against these guys.
For Pedri to be recognized as better player, and that also means others, there needs to be team that is drilled to perfection. Peps tactics were much different from Flicks so comparisons need to be made within that context. Pep favoured quick short passing within abundance of triangles and one-twos. Flick wants to be more straight forward. Whether that's his style or he sees quality of players and thinks it's best for them. Pedri will need to integrate into far different system then what Xavi and Iniesta were used to.
Think that's why you see Pedri more prominent on long/half long lofted passes than sharpish red carpet through balls.
For Pedri to be recognized as better player, and that also means others, there needs to be team that is drilled to perfection. Peps tactics were much different from Flicks so comparisons need to be made within that context. Pep favoured quick short passing within abundance of triangles and one-twos. Flick wants to be more straight forward. Whether that's his style or he sees quality of players and thinks it's best for them. Pedri will need to integrate into far different system then what Xavi and Iniesta were used to.
Think that's why you see Pedri more prominent on long/half long lofted passes than sharpish red carpet through balls.
Maradona37
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Good argument. It would be interesting to see Pedri back then in that team, or in Man City's team of recent years (before they signed Haaland).
FinBarcelonafan
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In those 5 summers from 08 to 2012, Xavi and Iniesta won
Euro
CL
World Cup
CL
Euro
each summerAll in dominant fashion.
And 3 LL in a row to boot, in dominant fashion also.
Pedri got a long way to go before we entertain such comparisons.
Sick dominance
MonteCuler
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I hate it when people say
Player x is never gonna be as good as player y because player y has achieved blablabla
How many times has football gone past this argument?
Footballers are not divine beings. They are human and if they have been born with such physical and mental characteristics to have an unreal football talent, it very definitely means another human being can be born with similar characteristics and hence similar level of talent and football ability
They said: no new Maradona, and there came Messi - a better version of Maradona. Now they say no new Messi but as much as I'm in awe of his football talent I think one day, possibly in the distant future, we will have a new Messi too
Here we can see people dismissing Pedri will ever be as good as Xavi or Iniesta although we know Pedri's football talent is immense and we have probably not seen the best of his capabilities yet. There is room for it. Is it likely? I don't think so because Xavi and Iniesta were still on a different level, but by no means is it impossible we will one day at least consider him to be close to those two
Player x is never gonna be as good as player y because player y has achieved blablabla
How many times has football gone past this argument?
Footballers are not divine beings. They are human and if they have been born with such physical and mental characteristics to have an unreal football talent, it very definitely means another human being can be born with similar characteristics and hence similar level of talent and football ability
They said: no new Maradona, and there came Messi - a better version of Maradona. Now they say no new Messi but as much as I'm in awe of his football talent I think one day, possibly in the distant future, we will have a new Messi too
Here we can see people dismissing Pedri will ever be as good as Xavi or Iniesta although we know Pedri's football talent is immense and we have probably not seen the best of his capabilities yet. There is room for it. Is it likely? I don't think so because Xavi and Iniesta were still on a different level, but by no means is it impossible we will one day at least consider him to be close to those two
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In the same way people need to park Messi and never compare anyone to him, they need to do the same with Xavi.
Go back and watch any of those old Classicos. 2 of the best Barca and Madrid teams ever. 22 players of which the majority were amongst the best players in the world in their position. And what happened ?
They all sat back and watched while Xavi decided how the game was going to be played. Even Messi. It was as if the game was an orchestra where Xavi was conducting every instrument ( player ) to play the most beautiful song for the crowd.
People talk about Rodri and DeBruyne being the backbone of that great City team that won 4 in a year. Xavi was Rodri and DeBruyne rolled in to one.
By all means compare players to Iniesta, but Xavi??? Never go there.
Go back and watch any of those old Classicos. 2 of the best Barca and Madrid teams ever. 22 players of which the majority were amongst the best players in the world in their position. And what happened ?
They all sat back and watched while Xavi decided how the game was going to be played. Even Messi. It was as if the game was an orchestra where Xavi was conducting every instrument ( player ) to play the most beautiful song for the crowd.
People talk about Rodri and DeBruyne being the backbone of that great City team that won 4 in a year. Xavi was Rodri and DeBruyne rolled in to one.
By all means compare players to Iniesta, but Xavi??? Never go there.
Kul_z
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Xavi was a general. I love to see some old clips of his pressing and how best of those barca players (Messi and Iniesta) always followed him closely depending of the position on the pitch.
Although i still love Iniesta more.
There is no comparisons with those 2
True. Though Iniesta was far more explosive and dynamic, mean he was better at 1-2 quick passing aka tiki taka. But as a passer, i think Pedri is probably better than Iniesta. His ground pass is just as good and his long ball is better than Iniesta or at least Iniesta under Pep's era (his long pass was better in his later years).
Pedri under Pep or Lucho's team will be likely even better than he is now (already world class).
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