8 - Pedri

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Gavi is absolutely nothing like any of those players.

Always extending the time line on when Gavi will do anything of note.

The best ever verison of Gavi wouldnt close to starting if all fit at current Barca is the reality.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
GK
LF
ST
CB
DM
FB

I think this is the position I said should be improved last summer and the club did just that.

The list remains this summer, in that order.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
On Zubi.

Think that is the third game in a row he doesnt make a tackle... didnt make one v Bayern or Chelsea nor tonight dont think.

Dream position for a player to play DM in that Arsenal set up with how little have to do defensively and Rice there.

Laugh emoji below if been educated once again.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Arsenal also have Rice. They have a physical team all around on every position almost.

Exactly.

Zubi doesnt have to do a whole lot to get ball forward either.

There to keep it ticking over but he is not some top defensive player or progressor of the ball.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
The midfield needs more dynamism, anyone who doesn't see this is blind.

When Pedri is by far your post dynamic player, who is capable of covering the most round, you have a problem.

Look at PSG, they are physical monsters in midfield, but they won't get out muscled and are highly dynamic.
 

serghei

Senior Member
The difficult player to judge in our midfield is De Jong. Neither De Jong nor Pedri is defensively good enough off the ball in a way to make them transform the team. It's unfortunate, but that's how I see it. Midfield functions well on the ball, but not so well off it.

But I do not exclude that, if you add 3-4 better more physical players around them, în the form of a new backline, a stronger box to box midfielder instead of Olmo who's actually too similar in profile to Pedri for my liking, De Jong and Pedri could function great together and dominate even against elite competition.

It's hard to judge this pair when we play with several players around them who are not Barca material.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Frenkie is levels ahead of likes of Gavi with mobility and getting about pitch.

PSG midfield has had their moments.. Chelsea bullied them at CWC and Aston Villa bullied them last season in CL. Arsenal there was nothing in it after first half hour or so of first leg.

Bayern midfield just over ran them also a couple weeks back.

Folk thinking they know what midfield needs when rated Casado as a top player.

Sme folk who didnt understand where Pedri should play.

Same folk who pined for Gundo to stay and smugly claimed would not leave.

Top stuff.
 

serghei

Senior Member
The difficult player to judge in our midfield is De Jong. Neither De Jong nor Pedri is defensively good enough off the ball. It's unfortunate, but that's how I see it. Midfield functions well on the ball, but not so well off it.

But I do not exclude that, if you add 3-4 more physical players around them, in the form of a new backline, a stronger box to box midfielder instead of Olmo (who's actually too similar in profile to Pedri for my liking), De Jong and Pedri could function great together even against elite opponents.

It's hard to judge this pair when we play with several players around them who are not Barca material.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
The difficult player to judge in our midfield is De Jong. Neither De Jong nor Pedri is defensively good enough off the ball. It's unfortunate, but that's how I see it. Midfield functions well on the ball, but not so well off it.

But I do not exclude that, if you add 3-4 more physical players around them, in the form of a new backline, a stronger box to box midfielder instead of Olmo (who's actually too similar in profile to Pedri for my liking), De Jong and Pedri could function great together even against elite opponents.

It's hard to judge this pair when we play with several players around them who are not Barca material.

De jong and Pedri have dominated Real and Atleticos midfield numerous time and they did same to Inter in CL semis..but defence had other ideas.
 

Temptation

Well-known member
Frenkie is levels ahead of likes of Gavi with mobility and getting about pitch.

PSG midfield has had their moments.. Chelsea bullied them at CWC and Aston Villa bullied them last season in CL. Arsenal there was nothing in it after first half hour or so of first leg.

Bayern midfield just over ran them also a couple weeks back.

Folk thinking they know what midfield needs when rated Casado as a top player.

Sme folk who didnt understand where Pedri should play.

Same folk who pined for Gundo to stay and smugly claimed would not leave.

Top stuff.
Who is a better ball winner and tackler? FDJ or Gavi?
 

serghei

Senior Member
I desperately want a new CB and a new midfielder. We have surplus to requirement in midfield, but neither option ensures a physical player like almost every team top has.

This reminds me of previous Barca when even players like old Vidal and Paulinho surprised some people just because they provided something that was lacking in midfield. Even Kessie had his moments. And these were all problematic players. If we actually sign someone of that profile who is young and good... could improve us a lot.
 

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