6 - Gavi

[tacticvarium]

Pedri, Illaix, Gavi and Demir will be ahead of Pooig once the season starts. The writing was on the wall for him a long time ago but he failed to see it. Only chance of him playing now is if Laporta steps in.

Laporta ain't stupid lol He won't force a manager to play some arrogant Iniesta-wanna-be just because he is from La Masia.

 

[te amo barca]

Frenkie stamp approved ✓

 

[fergus90]

Exceptional talent and fantastic half!

 

[Devils]

Pedriesta
G(X)avi

:blessed:

We march.

 

[te amo barca]

That's it, I'm sold on him. Exciting times.

 

[FinBarcelonafan]

16 years old and showing real promise.

Excited.

 

[i_bleed_blaugrana]

Yup, I see what the hype is about now

Poor Puig, his days are numbered now. Gavi is basically him but with actual end product, which has always been the biggest flaw in the game of Puig.

This kid is mad exciting though. Already connecting with Demir as well, who equally looks class as well.

Who needs Messi?

 

[Bobo32]

Yup, I see what the hype is about now

Poor Puig, his days are numbered now. Gavi is basically him but with actual end product, which has always been the biggest flaw in the game of Puig.

This kid is mad exciting though. Already connecting with Demir as well, who equally looks class as well.

Who needs Messi?

End product is what Puig has more of and Gavi less of? Gavi playing more safely and with a bit more patience...
But they are pretty similar I agree, and if Koeman goes for Gavi I don't think I'll be so mad, but it's of course a shame if we can't see Puig play.

 

[Total-Football]

Child labor 2.0 incoming 2021/2022

 

[i_bleed_blaugrana]

End product is what Puig has more of and Gavi less of? Gavi playing more safely and with a bit more patience...
But they are pretty similar I agree, and if Koeman goes for Gavi I don't think I'll be so mad, but it's of course a shame if we can't see Puig play.

In terms of attempting a final pass, Puig sees it and plays it perfectly but at times, his execution is a bit off. Ball is over/under hit, angle a little off, etc.

In just like the little bit I caught of that first half, Gavi tried a few of those final passes and completed them. Its nit-picky and I love the willingness of Puig to try these passes often but there is some times he over does it and needs to slow the game down a bit.

Gavi seems to have a better understanding of this and at a younger age too, which is remarkable. Not trying to come at Puig at all and I think he could improve on this with some playing time and confidence.

 

[Bobo32]

In terms of attempting a final pass, Puig sees it and plays it perfectly but at times, his execution is a bit off. Ball is over/under hit, angle a little off, etc.

In just like the little bit I caught of that first half, Gavi tried a few of those final passes and completed them. Its nit-picky and I love the willingness of Puig to try these passes often but there is some times he over does it and needs to slow the game down a bit.

Gavi seems to have a better understanding of this and at a younger age too, which is remarkable. Not trying to come at Puig at all and I think he could improve on this with some playing time and confidence.

Yes this is it, I believe.
Puig is trying (needing) to prove himself - most often it works out, but he misses too often right now I'd agree. I think it's mostly about him forcefully attempting too much rather than him being technically subpar.
A 16/18 year old is in a totally different stage, more in need to show he can circulate the ball well and not make mistakes (Gavi made at least 2 big mistakes today though, giving the ball away unforced).

Remember, the 60mins or so that Gavi got today is more than what Puig has gotten the last year bar just a couple of games... Not only is the carreer stage much different, it's different to arrive from the bench with a few minutes or so, and in a competitive game...

From what I've seen of Gavi so far (includes a youth game where he was the star of a losing Barcelona) he is a bit too conservative, and forces things a bit too little, but he can surely change that and is already superior to someone like Pedri in his movements and general understanding of the game, I feel. If a player with the vision of Gavi just gets to play the opportunities will arrive, he doesn't need to force things.
Overall, I much prefer a player who keeps the ball safely too often to a player who tries and fails too often. I think both Puig and Gavi can play very well for Barcelona A this season, and it's just minor psychological tweaks that I'd like to see in their games - they both have the qualities needed.

 

[SeloBarca]

Child labor 2.0 incoming 2021/2022

Yea it feels like our youngsters will pretty much have to carry us next season.
Pedri will be gased before the season even starts though.

 

[i_bleed_blaugrana]

Yes this is it, I believe.
Puig is trying (needing) to prove himself - most often it works out, but he misses too often right now I'd agree. I think it's mostly about him forcefully attempting too much rather than him being technically subpar.
A 16/18 year old is in a totally different stage, more in need to show he can circulate the ball well and not make mistakes (Gavi made at least 2 big mistakes today though, giving the ball away unforced).

Remember, the 60mins or so that Gavi got today is more than what Puig has gotten the last year bar just a couple of games... Not only is the carreer stage much different, it's different to arrive from the bench with a few minutes or so, and in a competitive game...

From what I've seen of Gavi so far (includes a youth game where he was the star of a losing Barcelona) he is a bit too conservative, and forces things a bit too little, but he can surely change that and is already superior to someone like Pedri in his movements and general understanding of the game, I feel. If a player with the vision of Gavi just gets to play the opportunities will arrive, he doesn't need to force things.
Overall, I much prefer a player who keeps the ball safely too often to a player who tries and fails too often. I think both Puig and Gavi can play very well for Barcelona A this season, and it's just minor psychological tweaks that I'd like to see in their games - they both have the qualities needed.

Yeah it is more of a mentality thing. From a technical standpoint, its a toincoss between the two. Still behind Pedri tbf, but not far by any means and again, it is just down to confidence/match fitness.

Especially with Puig, I give him the benefit of the doubt a lot because I see why he plays so risky like you said, trying to prove himself to Koeman and get minutes but the better thing in this situation is to show maturity in your play and know when to kill vs. when to play safe. From a hardman perspective like Koeman brings, I can see why he gets annoyed at times but I still feel he is too harsh on the lad. Its a bit like Thiago early on here, he showed the same class but sometimes had sloppy turnovers trying to do too much to force his way in against Xavi and Fabregas.

Puig just needs to demonstrate that balance between control and output and as long as that is happening, he should play. Thats why even when Gavi and him turn the ball over, its ok because they bring positive production overall. Its ok to turn the ball over here and there when you are scoring, assisting, creating and dictating play.

The problem comes down to Koeman being able to balance the playing time of them all. Gavi should probably be a B-A floater while Puig needs to be rotating for Pedri a lot more and in certain situations, I would like to seem next to each other in the MF. It is just Coutinho, Pjanic and Roberto are all on ridiculous wages so if they are still in the mix, it is going to complicate Koeman being able to give both Puig and Gavi the minutes the deserve down the line.

That is why I sorta see it as an either/or situation sadly between the two, unless we lose at least two of those big name MFs who are on these high wages.

 

[Bobo32]

Yeah it is more of a mentality thing. The problem comes down to Koeman being able to balance the playing time of them all. Gavi should probably be a B-A floater while Puig needs to be rotating for Pedri a lot more and in certain situations, I would like to seem next to each other in the MF. It is just Coutinho, Pjanic and Roberto are all on ridiculous wages so if they are still in the mix, it is going to complicate Koeman being able to give both Puig and Gavi the minutes the deserve down the line.

That is why I sorta see it as an either/or situation sadly between the two, unless we lose at least two of those big name MFs who are on these high wages.

Yeah, I think they are pretty similar and from a squad building perspective it makes some sense to only use one of them, although I wouldn't necessarily see it that way myself.
I agree mostly with what you write here. It will be fun to follow Gavi in any way - surely he will play a lot for B - if not for A - this year.

Here is his game from today: (these videos arrive very quickly!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWf3P-iOQ3c

 

[serghei]

Wouldn't be just majestic if we had another golden generation coming through, and then rub it in the face of those sugar daddy / oil clubs who consider us nearly dead because we don't have a sheik or a rich American digging in their deep pockets to save the day.