4 - Ronald Araújo

[Gazzznigga]

Great game.

He plays great or bad. No middle.

Concidering he has 65mil clause, and he is not starter and that he will be targeted by PL clubs,

If someone pays that, we can use this money for Hujisen or Nico W., and get Tah for free.

And all we need is too bring backup LB and RB which will be cheap.

Sell Araujo for 65m becuase he is not a starter and spend the entire money on players that may not be starters too???

Lord have mercy 🥺 !!

 

[Gazzznigga]

Not always. Has been a game or two where Vini skinned him.

CDR semifinal in 2023 comes to mind where all players were bad and coaching was horrible. Otherwise he owned Vini every other day.

 

[jamrock]

He's batty 90% against Vini and played well against Mbappe too, as did kounde.

But the defender as to be perfect every time, the attacker gets through once or twice and it will be remembered as a bad game

 

[draconifire]

Sell Araujo for 65m becuase he is not a starter and spend the entire money on player that may not be starters too

Lord have mercy 🥺 !!

But you get a player with a similar ceiling, better IQ, and can be our CB pair for at least 5-6 years straight.
Since Araujo is not a starter, might as well think of the future.

Not saying we should sell. But a offer of 65m shouldnt be discarded.

 

[Gazzznigga]

But you get a player with a similar ceiling, better IQ, and can be our CB pair for at least 5-6 years straight.
Since Araujo is not a starter, might as well think of the future.

Not saying we should sell. But a offer of 65m shouldnt be discarded.

Even if that offer came and you accepted, you think a cash strapped club should then spend it on a budding central defender who will not start because you have starters that are more talented and better suited, or on a 1 season-wonder striker while you are still contracted to a proven striker for another season, or on a Nico that can not displace any of your current wingers and will have to ride the bench for that reason alone??

As taught in business schools, when you are broke, the priorities should be immediate or short term needs first to survive insolvency. Selling a player to buy one that will mature in 5-6 years is a disastrous decision-making.

Lord have mercy 🥺!!!

Some of you should stay far away from where financial decisions are being made at home.

 

[draconifire]

Even if that offer came and you accepted, you think a cash strapped club should then spend it on a budding central defender who will not start because you have starters that are more talented and better suited, or on a 1 season-wonder striker while you are still contracted to a proven striker for another season, or on a Nico that can not displace any of your current wingers and will have to ride the bench for that reason alone??

As taught in business schools, when youbare beoke the priorities should be immediate or short term needs first to survive insolvency. Selling a player to buy one that will mature in 5-6 years is a disastrous decision-making.

Lord have mercy 🥺!!!

Some of you should stay far away from where financial decisions are being made at home.

So you are not going to replace a CB and keep a 34-year-old as the main one while a 30-year-old free transfer is your next backup?
Destined not to win anything next year, then.
One injury and fatigue, and we are cooked.

As taught in Football schools, when you sell a starter/important player, you either replace them with a potential one, or buy a replacement of the same stature.

Some of you should stay far away from where financial decisions are being made at home.

And some of you should just be an office grunt. You have no vision to foresee and plan ahead.

I can play this game too. So stop with this line of nonsense.

 

[Gazzznigga]

So you are not going to replace a CB and keep a 34-year-old as the main one while a 30-year-old free transfer is your next backup?
Destined not to win anything next year, then.
One injury and fatigue, and we are cooked.

As taught in Football schools, when you sell a starter/important player, you either replace them with a potential one, or buy a replacement of the same stature.

And some of you should just be an office grunt. You have no vision to foresee and plan ahead.

I can play this game too. So stop with this line of nonsense.

What is wrong with a 34 year old CB being a starter??
Liverpool just extended the contract of a 34 year old CB for another 2 years(same Van Dijk many of you wanted here as a free agent to replace Araujo). Sergio Ramos, Thiago Silva, Franco Baresi, Paulo Maldini, Cannavaro,Nesta,Puyol, etc , had some of their bests years between years 31-35

Barca will have about 5 CBs next season if the "30 year old" is added and even after selling Araujo and keeping Garcia. That should be enough to cover the CD positions and not need to waste the entire proceeds of 65m on another "budding" CD that will sit on the bench because you need to plan for "next 5 to 6 years" when you are almost insolvent. Its so pedestrian, bro!!!!!

Martinez was injured for a few times this season and Curbasi was also rested too, team was not "cooked". If team was not "cooked" then, it will not be "cooked" with an addition of Tah and the exit of Araujo....simple!! All of that dont justify spending 65m on a defender that will most likely sit on the bench for next few years until he is ready. Reason well, brother!

As taught in Football schools, when you sell a starter/important player, you either replace them with a potential one, or buy a replacement of the same stature.

Imagine??
Do you have to sell a starter in a position that you are stacked while other areas need urgent reinforcements?? Besides, you admitted in your previous post that Araujo is not a starter nor very important for now so why speaking from both sides.
And even if he is sold for that money and a Tah is brought in for free, do you not think it is vision myopic to pump that same 65m on another defender who may not be starting or any other player who will not be starting????

I don't know what "Football schools" teach this type of squad planning/management when you have insolvency and illiquidity staring you in the face. Perhaps the Community football clinics organized for 6-10 year old kids in the suburbs.

And certainly, I cant see any vision in any of your points above but inefficiencies in decisioning. Otherwise, nothing else will make someone who could not afford to pay his current bills but decided to sell his average age car for the reason of not being "technical" enough and used the sales proceeds to buy another car 'for the future" that will only be kept in the garage and useful in 5-6 years.

 

[draconifire]

What is wrong with a 34 year old CB being a starter??
Liverpool just extended the contract of a 34 year old CB for another 2 years(same Van Dijk many of you wanted here as a free agent to replace Araujo). Sergio Ramos, Thiago Silva, Franco Baresi, Paulo Maldini, Cannavaro,Nesta,Puyol, etc , had some of their bests years between years 31-35

Barca will have about 5 CBs next season if the "30 year old" is added and even after selling Araujo and keeping Garcia. That should be enough to cover the CD positions and not need to waste the entire proceeds of 65m on another "budding" CD that will sit on the bench because you need to plan for "next 5 to 6 years" when you are almost insolvent. Its so pedestrian, bro!!!!!

Martinez was injured for a few times this season and Curbasi was also rested too, team was not "cooked". If team was not "cooked" then, it will not be "cooked" with an addition of Tah and the exit of Araujo....simple!! All of that dont justify spending 65m on a defender that will most likely sit on the bench for next few years until he is ready. Reason well, brother!


Imagine??
Do you have to sell a starter in a position that you are stacked while other areas need urgent reinforcements?? Besides, you admitted in your previous post that Araujo is not a starter nor very important for now so why speaking from both sides.
And even if he is sold for that money and a Tah is brought in for free, do you not think it is vision myopic to pump that same 65m on another defender who may not be starting or any other player who will not be starting????

I don't know what "Football schools" teach this type of squad planning/management when you have insolvency and illiquidity staring you in the face. Perhaps the Community football clinics organized for 6-10 year old kids in the suburbs.

And certainly, I cant see any vision in any of your points above but inefficiencies in decisioning. Otherwise, nothing else will make someone who could not afford to pay his current bills but decided to sell his average age car for the reason of not being "technical" enough and used the sales proceeds to buy another car 'for the future" that will only be kept in the garage and useful in 5-6 years.

Just to remind you, we bought Olmo for 60m while not being in the 1:1 rule.
We can easily 50m odd on a defender, we won't go broke.

And we are not stacked with defenders if we sell Araujo. Are you watching the same team or what? Christinsen doesnt play, we need to ship him. And Eric is a backup. We need 3 solid starter materials to compete. Did you forget Nov-Dec when we only had Inigo-Cuba with Eric as a backup? Fatigue kicked in and our levels dropped because of not able to rotate properly.

What is wrong with a 34 year old CB being a starter??

This is what I alluded to when I said, Planning is not your forte.
My problem is not with Inigo being 34. He is our best defender and will hopefully remain the same next year aswell.
The problem is he will be 35 next year summer, while out of contract. So you are telling me you are going to look for another CB in 2026 when that happens, or risk renewing him for another year, when there is a high propensity of him falling off.
"Football School" will teach you that this is the perfect time to bring in someone with the hopes of them being a starter and by the time summer 2026 arrives, you already are set your CB pairing.

Barca will not have 5 CBs, just like Barca doesn't HAVE 5 CBs now. And I agree we need 5 CBs to have a proper squad. You either go cheap backup and go for players like Tah and Inigo with high salaries who can give you solid 4-5 years. Or you have the opportunity to sign a potential starter that suits your play style, is of the same country, for less money than the money you got for Araujo.

I chose the latter, you chose the first. Thats fine.
You can do that without being childish and throwing insults. Not befitting a grown man, who needs to throw Ad Hominem to prove his point.

 

[Gazzznigga]

Just to remind you, we bought Olmo for 60m while not being in the 1:1 rule.
We can easily 50m odd on a defender, we won't go broke.

And we are not stacked with defenders if we sell Araujo. Are you watching the same team or what? Christinsen doesnt play, we need to ship him. And Eric is a backup. We need 3 solid starter materials to compete. Did you forget Nov-Dec when we only had Inigo-Cuba with Eric as a backup? Fatigue kicked in and our levels dropped because of not able to rotate properly.


This is what I alluded to when I said, Planning is not your forte.
My problem is not with Inigo being 34. He is our best defender and will hopefully remain the same next year aswell.
The problem is he will be 35 next year summer, while out of contract. So you are telling me you are going to look for another CB in 2026 when that happens, or risk renewing him for another year, when there is a high propensity of him falling off.

CONTEXT! CONTEXT!! CONTEXT!!!

Barca is in a bad financial situation. That is the context!!!

To start with, Barca is broke. A day old baby knows that. Paying 60m for Olmo and requiring intervention of courts to use "fairness" rule to register is not a norm and something any organsation with "vision" should be proud of and certainly not what one with any iota of good "planning" should repeat again. Besides, Olmo was bought as a 'starter" and not for depth as you have suggested Barca should do for a Hudjsen

And we are not stacked with defenders if we sell Araujo. Are you watching the same team or what? Christinsen doesnt play, we need to ship him. And Eric is a backup. We need 3 solid starter materials to compete. Did you forget Nov-Dec when we only had Inigo-Cuba with Eric as a backup? Fatigue kicked in and our levels dropped because of not able to rotate properly.

Lol...If you sell Araujo and bring in a Tah and still have a Christensen(you never included shipping him initially) You will have 4 CBs+ Kounde who could be the 5th one. All are national team players. What is that called?? Even for a Man City that is considered stacked in CBs and many other positions, they dont have more than 5 national team players in CB position.

This is what I alluded to when I said, Planning is not your forte.
My problem is not with Inigo being 34. He is our best defender and will hopefully remain the same next year aswell.
The problem is he will be 35 next year summer, while out of contract. So you are telling me you are going to look for another CB in 2026 when that happens, or risk renewing him for another year, when there is a high propensity of him falling off.
"Football School" will teach you that this is the perfect time to bring in someone with the hopes of them being a starter and by the time summer 2026 arrives, you already are set your CB pairing.

Hilarious!
Your problem is not Inigo being a starter for another year but your SOLUTION is spending 60m/65m on a Hudjsen to sit on the bench for some years while you lack depth at the FBs and winger positions at a club struggling with finances? Wow!!! I can now see the type "Planning" you meant, the type that is your "forte"

Barca will not have 5 CBs, just like Barca doesn't HAVE 5 CBs now. And I agree we need 5 CBs to have a proper squad.

Barca have 5 CBs now (Inigo,Christense,Curbasi, Araujo, and Garcia) are all registered as Defenders as per La-liga website. That is 5 in case you need to count again. And NO, you don't necessarily need 5 CBs in a team(I never even mentioned that so not seeing need to agree). 4 good ones are okay for depth.

You either go cheap backup and go for players like Tah and Inigo with high salaries who can give you solid 4-5 years. Or you have the opportunity to sign a potential starter that suits your play style, is of the same country, for less money than the money you got for Araujo.

If you could go cheap for the likes of Tah and Inigo who cost you nothing for a solid 4-5 years of active performance, why would you then need to splash 60m-65m on a "potential starter" for another 4-5 years of the future when you are struggling with with finances at the moment????. Besides, there is no guarantee Hudjsen will start ahead of Inigo and Curbasi in the next 2-3 years as he is seen as back up for those two even at the national team. is that your type of Planning?!!

"Less money"? Hudjsen"s release clause is ~60m Euros and his handlers will likely demand for a medium to high salary compared to what he is earning now considering the number of clubs gunning for his signature. Simple analysis will point it out that his Total Cost of Ownership(TCO) will be much higher than that of Tah/Inigo for the foreseeable future. So why being imprudent with your windfall when you have bigger pressing needs?
Further, if you sold Araujo for 65m and pump 60m of that into buying a back up CD for depth(he is not any better than Curbasi and Inigo), what else is left to take care of other areas? Would you use the remaining 5m to buy a full back and a winger?? And finally, players are not bought for the sake of "the same country"

"Football School" will teach you that this is the perfect time to bring in someone with the hopes of them being a starter and by the time summer 2026 arrives, you already are set your CB pairing.

....if you are struggling with finances and your "planning" is hinged on blowing all your windfall on hopes or illusions, then you have no business being close to where final decisions are made. Even financially buoyant Clubs like Man city don't buy players solely on "hopes" except maybe of course Chelsea who have become a kind of meme in the football world for spending without thinking and hoping it would work out. Barca is almost insolvent, it will be too dumb to do that. Hopes are for the la-masia kids and 60m/65m player should be for an immediate starter positions


Finally, Hudjsen is an opportunity but the type Barca can not afford now given the state of finances and squad situation. That is the CONTEXT(called "background" or "Case facts" in top the corridors of management decisioning).

 

[TacticsTim]

What are you all talking about sell this guy for 50m and get Tah it's the easiest decision of all time

 

[Gazzznigga]

What are you all talking about sell this guy for 50m and get Tah it's the easiest decision of all time

Sell for any amount, I dont care.
But to then spend the entire proceeds on a Hudjsen( who can no start in the next 2 years while you have other more urgent areas of need is a decision I dont think is rational nor forward thinking for a club with illiquidity staring it in face, anyway you want to look at it

 

[Catta]

Again will be at fault for our CL exit. But this time not because of a "mistake" but because he didn't play.

 

[Devils]

he can’t defend a set piece

 

[jamrock]

Lol

 

[jaype]

Can't defend set pieces with his physicality, wtf is he good for?