25 - Wojciech Szczęsny

Temptation

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He's too submissive and laidback.

Unlike MATS.

Flick might just play MATS to maintain the team morale and prevent issues in the dressing room.

Tek would happily accept a bench role. MATS won't and he's club captain on top of that.
 

TheStig

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I lost hope, it's obvious they are leaking info about MATS' return in the media for some weeks now. It was fun while it lasted, hope at least MATS allows us to win against Dortmund but in the semis we're back to the traditional manita in MATS' net against Bayern/Inter.
 

Catta

Senior Member
He's too submissive and laidback.

Unlike MATS.

Flick might just play MATS to maintain the team morale and prevent issues in the dressing room.

Tek would happily accept a bench role. MATS won't and he's club captain on top of that.
If Flick accepts that, then every title we don't win will be on him. Would go from goat to woat in an instant.

EV was hated because he bowed down to the Amigos, would be a milion times worse if Flick bows to that loser.
 

Gazzznigga

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Please read the rules and stop fretting

Mats can return to the team but it is clear he cant play in either the UCL (unless there is a serious injury to Pena or Tek), or La liga (except Barca suddenly terminates the contract with Tek by mutual agreement; or substantially increase the salary cap to accommodate Mat's full aalary to the end of the season while also paying Tek's salary).

You all know neither of the above can happen in the current circumstances.

He is just preparing for any eventuality(including injury to one of Tek and Pena). He is a distraction as of now. I trust Flick to come up with a sensible resolution devoid of emotions and sentiments.
 
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Andresito

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Please read the rules and stop fretting

Mats can return to the team but it is clear he cant play in either the UCL (unless there is a serious injury to Pena or Tek), or La liga (except Barca suddenly terminates the contract with Tek by mutual agreement; or substantially increase the salary cap to accommodate Mat's full aalary to the end of the season while also paying Tek's salary).

You all know neither of the above can happen in the current circumstances.

He is just preparing for any eventuality(including injury to one of Tek and Pena). He is a distraction as of now. I trust Flick to come up with a sensible resolution devoid of emotions and sentiments.
I believe he can at the expense of Tek because of his registration being an emergency solution. It's either or in CL. In Liga both should be eligible.

Besides, it took Tek a number of games to get back into form and I assume it will take Mats at least just as long. "A number of games" later and we are basically done with the season. Can't afford to have a rusty GK in this run. He can play if league is won.

According to UEFA regulations, once an injured goalkeeper is fit to play again, he can resume his position in place of his substitute.

"A club may replace a goalkeeper who is unable to play due to injury or illness, even if one or more goalkeepers are still listed on the player list. The club must submit medical evidence and request approval at least 24 hours before the match. Once the original goalkeeper is fit to return, he may resume his place in the list, provided UEFA is informed at least 24 hours before the match."
 

Gazzznigga

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I believe he can at the expense of Tek because of his registration being an emergency solution. It's either or in CL. In Liga both should be eligible.

Besides, it took Tek a number of games to get back into form and I assume it will take Mats at least just as long. "A number of games" later and we are basically done with the season. Can't afford to have a rusty GK in this run. He can play if league is won.

According to UEFA regulations, once an injured goalkeeper is fit to play again, he can resume his position in place of his substitute.

"A club may replace a goalkeeper who is unable to play due to injury or illness, even if one or more goalkeepers are still listed on the player list. The club must submit medical evidence and request approval at least 24 hours before the match. Once the original goalkeeper is fit to return, he may resume his place in the list, provided UEFA is informed at least 24 hours before the match."
Read again bro .

The article you are referring to is for a situation when a goalkeeper is still registered for the competition but another GK was registered due to an injury to the one already registered without de refistering ghe injured GK. Check UEFA.com UCL page for Barcelona,Ter Stegen is not even registered as a Barca player. You can not register a player in 24 hours for any serious competition except maybe Copa Catalunya or any other friendly match. Mats can NEVER play in UCL this season except if and when there is a serious injury to any of the 5 GKs currently registered.

It is a different case with La liga, where Mats is still registered by Barca for La liga but removed from matchday listing because he was replaced by Tek and his salary discounted by La liga. While he can still be a member of the team, he can only play if and when Tek's contract is mutually terminated by Barca or there is enough salary headroom to accomodate him and in the case of Barca, new sources of income to accommodate his salary along with Tek's
 
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Andresito

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Read again bro .

The article you are referring to is for a situation when a goalkeeper is registered for the competition but removed from a matchday list due to an injury and replaced with another. Check UEFA.com UCL page for Barcelona,Ter Stegen is not even registered as a Barca player. You can not register a player in 24 hours for any serious competition except maybe Copa Catalunya or any other friendly match. Mats can NEVER play in UCL this season except if ans when there is a serious injury to any of the 5 GK currently registered.

It is a different case with La liga, where Mats is still registered by Barca for La liga but removed from matchday listing because he was replaced by Tek and his salary discounted by La liga. While he can still be a member of the team, he can only play if and when Tek's contract is mutually terminated by Barca or there is enough salary headroom to accomodate him and in the case of Barca, new sources of income to accommodate his salary along with Tek's
Here bro, from Uefa rules. List A only consisted of Peña and Mats, Mats got injured and was then replaced.

"If a club cannot count on the services of at least two goalkeepers registered on List A because of long-term injury or illness, the club concerned may temporarily replace the goalkeeper concerned and register a new goalkeeper at any time during the season and complete the official registration of List A with a goalkeeper fit to be fielded. An injury or illness is considered long-term if it lasts at least 30 days as of the day the injury or illness occurred. If the goalkeeper recovers before the end of this 30-day period, the player must nonetheless remain off List A until the end of such period. The new goalkeeper does not have to be locally trained, even if the replaced goalkeeper was. The club must provide UEFA with the necessary medical evidence in one of UEFA's official languages. UEFA may require further medical examination of the goalkeeper by an expert appointed by UEFA at the club's expense. Once the injured or ill goalkeeper is fit to be fielded again, he can resume his position in place of his substitute. The return of the original goalkeeper must be announced to the UEFA administration 24 hours before the next match in which the original goalkeeper is due to play."
 

malvolio

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He's too submissive and laidback.

Unlike MATS.

Flick might just play MATS to maintain the team morale and prevent issues in the dressing room.

Tek would happily accept a bench role. MATS won't and he's club captain on top of that.
He's a guy who came out of retirement and was handed a dream job basically. He could very well retire again tomorrow if he wishes.

The fuck should he say? Swing his dick like he owns the place? Looks level headed and knows he has the opportunity of a lifetime. He's just enjoying the ride at this point.
 

Gazzznigga

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Here bro, from Uefa rules. List A only consisted of Peña and Mats, Mats got injured and was then replaced.

"If a club cannot count on the services of at least two goalkeepers registered on List A because of long-term injury or illness, the club concerned may temporarily replace the goalkeeper concerned and register a new goalkeeper at any time during the season and complete the official registration of List A with a goalkeeper fit to be fielded. An injury or illness is considered long-term if it lasts at least 30 days as of the day the injury or illness occurred. If the goalkeeper recovers before the end of this 30-day period, the player must nonetheless remain off List A until the end of such period. The new goalkeeper does not have to be locally trained, even if the replaced goalkeeper was. The club must provide UEFA with the necessary medical evidence in one of UEFA's official languages. UEFA may require further medical examination of the goalkeeper by an expert appointed by UEFA at the club's expense. Once the injured or ill goalkeeper is fit to be fielded again, he can resume his position in place of his substitute. The return of the original goalkeeper must be announced to the UEFA administration 24 hours before the next match in which the original goalkeeper is due to play."
Read your own post again and ovelay it on Articles 30.01 and 31.03

In summary, it is stating that you can only register a new goalkeeper when one is injured or ill while not deregistering the one that is injured. You can inform them that the one you replaced with another keeper is now back and ready to play on 24 hours.

You can NOT register a new player in 24 hours if he was never registered for the 2nd phase of the competition as per Article 32. Additionally, Article 31.13 allows you to register 5 goalkeepers and Mats was not among the 5 registered by Barca.

He CAN not suddenly be available to play UCL again unless one of those 5 is injured. Simple. If he was still part of the 5 registered by Barca but club had to bring in a 6th because he was injured or ill, he could still play with a 24 hour's notice.

I am sure the Team managers know this, that is why no one is giving that discussion any attention.
 

Gazzznigga

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I lost hope, it's obvious they are leaking info about MATS' return in the media for some weeks now. It was fun while it lasted, hope at least MATS allows us to win against Dortmund but in the semis we're back to the traditional manita in MATS' net against Bayern/Inter.
Forget it. He can not play UCL or La liga this season except the extraordinary happens.

Mayb Copa final, as I am not so familiar with the rules of that competition.
 

Andresito

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Staff member
Read your own post again and ovelay it on Articles 30.01 and 31.03

In summary, it is stating that you can only register a new goalkeeper when one is injured or ill while not deregistering the one that is injured. You can inform them that the one you replaced with another keeper is now back and ready to play on 24 hours.

You can NOT register a new player in 24 hours if he was never registered for the 2nd phase of the competition as per Article 32. Additionally, Article 31.13 allows you to register 5 goalkeepers and Mats was not among the 5 registered by Barca.

He CAN not suddenly be available to play UCL again unless one of those 5 is injured. Simple. If he was still part of the 5 registered by Barca but club had to bring in a 6th because he was injured or ill, he could still play with a 24 hour's notice.

I am sure the Team managers know this, that is why no one is giving that discussion any attention.
But they did. ter Stegen also said he would like to 'do a Courtois' and play final.


 

Gazzznigga

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But they did. ter Stegen also said he would like to 'do a Courtois' and play final.


Bro, please read the rules and inteprete them. Ignore the opinions of some of these journalists who may either not know as much as you or are completely compromised.

Additionally, that comment is Ter Stegen dreaming. It would be utterly dumb for Barca to wake up suddenly and de-register Tek just because they wanted Mats to pull a Cortouis too. I know Barca board and management are known to make some stupid decisions lately but we all know they are not so daft to pull that off for one individual.
 

Andresito

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Bro, please read the rules and inteprete them. Ignore the opinions of some of these journalists who may either not know as much as you or are completely compromised.

Additionally, that comment is Ter Stegen dreaming. It would be utterly dumb for Barca to wake up suddenly and de-register Tek just because they wanted Mats to pull a Cortouis too. I know Barca board and management are known to make some stupid decisions lately but we all know they are not so daft to pull that off for one individual.
I believe he can be included at the expense of Tek. In Liga/Copa there are no issues, he can play.

When ter Stegen gets medical green light this will be a hot topic. We'll see how it pans out. Hopefully Flick isn't stupid regarding this.
 

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