21 - Frenkie de Jong

[JamDav1982]

And got shat on by a mediocre Chelsea.

With 10 men and going by what Raph did when on and in other CL games wouldnt have made much difference.

Got shat on v a worse Monaco side with 10 men in past. Happens.

Newcastle also be missing Bruno Guimaeres and Barca have likes of Yamal back.

Should be fine.

 

[serghei]

With 10 men and going by what Raph did when on and in other CL games wouldnt have made much difference.

Well, if our best big game player doesn't make much difference, then we are properly fucked.

Don't trust me, trust Flick. For him Raphinha was the best player in the world last season.

 

[JamDav1982]

Well, if our best big game player doesn't make much difference, then we are properly fucked.

Don't trust me, trust Flick. For him Raphinha was the best player in the world last season.

CL games not big no?

He has been about poorest attacker in CL this season and last season he was not even close to Barcas best player in CL Semi v Inter or QF v Dortmund.

 

[MasQueCulé]

Fuccc we are always unlucky with injuries. Always a big player missing. It's pissing me off. We never had the full team available for a long time this season.

 

[serghei]

CL games not big no?

He has been about poorest attacker in CL this season and last season he was not even close to Barcas best player in CL Semi v Inter or QF v Dortmund.

Why do you think we generally suck this season in big games. Raphinha either injured or playing poorly. That is what I'm telling you, we need him back at his last season form, or we're done for this season.

I am giving you that this season he was a mixed bag in the big games he was fit for. I don't need to give you credit for this btw, anyone can see our key players are nowhere near what they showed last year.

 

[JamDav1982]

Why do you think we generally suck this season in big games. Raphinha either injured or playing poorly. That is what I'm telling you, we need him back at his last season for or we're done for this season.

I am giving you that this season he was a mixed bag in the big games he was fit for.

Need all the best players and not just him missing.

You make out Raphinha was difference v Real etc and miss all round that.

He has missed the vast majority of the biggest games this season

All the best players need to play to give Barca best chance.

 

[serghei]

Need all the best players and not just him missing.

You make out Raphinha was difference v Real etc and miss all round that.

He has missed the vast majority of the biggest games this season

We only have 2-3 really top players. If one is poor that's almost half the output affected. Either of Raphinha or Yamal having stinkers is gonna do us badly.

 

[JamDav1982]

We only have 2-3 really top players. If one is poor that's almost half the output affected. Either of Raphinha or Yamal having stinkers is gonna do us badly.

Nonsense.

Others have stepped up plenty of times when Raph been poor and missing two as was case v likes of Atletico and when cant defend makes a difference.

Usual excuses been on go for years if players who folk like play poorly as lose 'cant cope if they dont play well'

 

[serghei]

Nonsense.

Others have stepped up plenty of times when Raph been poor and missing two as was case v likes of Atletico and when cant defend makes a difference.

Who did? Nobody did. It was mostly Raphinha and Yamal making a difference up top. Pedri is the third. The team is nothing special apart for these 3. Come on...

We have some 3-4 good players apart for these 3, but they are not difference makers.

 

[JamDav1982]

Who did? Nobody did. It was mostly Raphinha and Yamal making a difference up top. Pedri is the third. The team is nothing special apart for these 3. Come on...

Nonsense.

Plenty other stepped up in biggest games.

Same Yamal you dont even know what games he played in and same Pedri you as usual had no clue on and claim massively over rated.. 'weak and slow',

Same shite said after PSG game.

 

[serghei]

Nonsense.

Plenty other stepped up in biggest games.

Same Yamal you dont even know what games he played in and same Pedri you as usual had no clue on and claim massively over rated.. 'weak and slow',

Same shite said after PSG game.

Like who? Bayern win, Raphinha scores a hattrick, 2 of which out of nothing. Yamal vs Inter at 0-2 out of nothing. Vs Benfica we defended all game in 10 and out of nothing Raphinha steals a ball and hammers it in from long range.

There is Lewa but Arabia moment came knocking at the front door. His last season was the last elite one.

In the tough pressure moments, it was Raphinha, Yamal, and partly Lewandowski who lifted us.

 

[JamDav1982]

Like who? Bayern win, Raphinha scores a hattrick, 2 of which out of nothing. Yamal vs Inter at 0-2 out of nothing. Vs Benfica we defended all game in 10 and out of nothing Raphinha steals a ball and hammers it in from long range.

Against Inter the best two Barca players were Yamal and Frenkie.
Against Dortmund in round before it was Pedri and Frenkie.
Against Newcastle it was Pedri and Frenkie even with Rash goals.

Against Benfica it was Pedri and Frenkie again when had 10 men.

Raph scoring a deflected effort didnt change that.

Agree with Bayern. I dont think Barca were that great in that game and Raph best one.

 

[serghei]

Haha, that's a good one. Frenkie is a normal good player for the level we speak of. That's all. He's a good team player who will do his job well. Nothing extra.

That's fine and he's important. But you can't expect Frenkie to mark a big influence on a game. End product is near zero.

 

[te amo barca]

Frenkie doesn't really step up in the most difficult games so I'm not as worried as if Pedri were missing.

 

[JamDav1982]

Haha, that's a good one. Frenkie is a normal good player for the level we speak of. That's all. He's a good team player who will do his job well. Nothing extra.

Yet that normal player was one of Barcas top two in CL semi and QF..

And v Newcastle etc.

Was with Pedri main reason beat Benfica with 10 men and came back to beat them 5-4 a few months before.