21 - Frenkie de Jong

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Fake news.

Played well and good assist to win it.

Far better than man childs like Casado.

There is no way Pedri could have done the running in that position today. He could barely do much more than a slow trot not long into game.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
Was he going to not cut the ball back in that situation? Literally the only thing he could do, araujo made that into a very well taken goal.

The ball just went to him and died with almost every touch in the attacking 3rd.

Complete void of creativity for a midfielder.

Dude Mastered the double pivot at 19/20 and said that's it I'm done.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Indeed found the pass after a good run.

Many failed today for Barca to do same thing in similar positions.

Imagine bumming up Casado and having hissy fit as angry Frenkie assisted winner.

Sensational.

Not bad to assist two winners in last four games fort someone so devoid of creativity.
 

Barcaman

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Indeed found the pass after a good run.

Many failed today for Barca to do same thing in similar positions.

Imagine bumming up Casado and having hissy fit as angry Frenkie assisted winner.

Sensational.

Not bad to assist two winners in last four games fort someone so devoid of creativity.

Not a fit nor emotional. Your boy earns 5 times more than Casa and doesn't shows half of his heart. Casa plays more conservative role anyway.

Don't know why you're obsessing with him. Should be happy to have these players for squad roles.

Frankie was accommodated with that advanced role today because Flick knew soft boy can't control from the deep without Pedri.

Did fuck all as I said for 92 mins but managed an assist so not entirely pathetic.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Not talking about you and Casado chief.

Calma.

Love a Frenkie debate cant lie.

As said he played well and got last assist with running like fuck in injury time and picked the pass as many had failed to do.

Pedri and Casado were poor as a pair once again deeper. That is the reality.

Barca once again played better once that two broken up as happened more often than not for closing in on a year in not too long.
 

Barcaman

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Not talking about you and Casado chief.

Calma.

Love a Frenkie debate cant lie.

As said he played well and got last assist with running like fuck in injury time and picked the pass as many had failed to do.

Pass was a hail mary low cross but ok. Assist is assist. Noone is arguing that.

Disagree on overall performance. Needs Pedri to babysit him otherwise he's not all that.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Pass was a hail mary low cross but ok. Assist is assist. Noone is arguing that.

Disagree on overall performance. Needs Pedri to babysit him otherwise he's not all that.

Perfect you think that.

Nah Pedri needs him also.

Far too often midfield with Pedri and Casado is poor like today and team failing to win with it.

Once again team is better once broken up.

Pedri needed FDJ to come on vs Oviedo not long ago to win game etc and happened plenty before.

Best two midfielders by far at Barca and both need each other.
 

Barcaman

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Perfect you think that.

Nah Pedri needs him also.

Far too often midfield with Pedri and Casado is poor like today and team failing to win with it.

Once again team is better once broken up.

Nah it was odd men out Frankie and Toni taken off the pitch by Girona.
Lamine failed to press but that's another story.

Noone is debating Frankie's pass for Araujo but, realistically, he can't play advanced role.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Nah it was odd men out Frankie and Toni taken off the pitch by Girona.
Lamine failed to press but that's another story.

Noone is debating Frankie's pass for Araujo but, realistically, he can't play advanced role.

He cant play advanced role like some of them.

But what he did do today was play there and offer a lot more running than some others do and kept ball more in a team that has been losing the ball far too much when goes up the park.

Clearly its a stop gap and would be deeper with Pedri if all fit but he can play there.

He was there today to help Toni and try to get into box more quite clearly and a lot of running to try and get back also.

Last time he played in final third even remotely regularly for Barca was under Koeman he got 15 goals/assists and spent about half that season at CB and DM positions also.

He would get goals/assist playing there but its a waste and he is needed deeper and other profiles suit it more.

Pedri is the better AM but he didnt have legs to plat that role today at all and not in that set up when looking for runs into box as much.
 

Barcaman

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He cant play advanced role like some of them.

But what he did do today was play there and offer a lot more running than some others do and kept ball more in a team that has been losing the ball far too much when goes up the park.

Clearly its a stop gap and would be deeper with Pedri if all fit but he can play there.

He was there today to help Toni and try to get into box more quite clearly and a lot of running to try and get back also.

Last time he played in final third even remotely regularly for Barca was under Koeman he got 15 goals/assists and spent about half that season at CB and DM positions also.

He would get goals/assist playing there but its a waste and he is needed deeper and other profiles suit it more.

Pedri is the better AM but he didnt have legs to plat that role today at all and not in that set up when looking for runs into box as much.

Pedri was everywhere today. So much for "not having legs". You must have missed his goal and all those actions in front of Girona's goal where Pedri was involved. All the while playing DM role.
You know, some player at AMC would have normally produced but alas. We had Frankie the slow-trot there.

Solid hail-mary low cross-assist, I give you that.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Pedri was not great today really. He was ok overall but tired badly and team got better when went off.

Good goal.

He had good moments and sloppy ones and team got better after he and Yamal went off.

He lost ball badly in midfield twice they nearly scored from and was doing little to open game up after his goal.

Was very slow on defence and leaving far too much room for them to play through middle of park.

Again... team got better when he and Yamal went off and Girona got worse.

Good pass from FDJ after good run for the winner in position many others failed to pick out a man.
 

Barcaman

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Pedri was not great today.

Good goal.

He had good moments and sloppy ones and team got better after he and Yamal went off.

Was very slow on defence and leaving far too much room for them to play through middle of park.

Again... team got better when he and Yamal went off and Girona got worse.

Did not say Pedri was great. Try strawman elsewhere.

Ran a lot though and scored a beauty. Produced good chances too while playing deeper than Frenkie-the-slow-trot.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
'Not great' is not the same as me claiming you said he was 'great'.

Never claimed you said that Wurzel.

Do keep up.

My assesment of him is 'not great' as in fairly average overall.

Team got better and created more when he went off is the reality. Was slow footed to often and the Pedri/Casado midfield largely failed again.

Frenkie created more chances and involved in more moves that led to chances.

Frenkie had far more energy than the one paced/slow Pedri today. By a long way.
 

Barcaman

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'Not great' is not the same as me claiming you said he was 'great'.

Never claimed you said that.

My assesment of him is 'not great' as in fairly average overall.

Team got better and created more when he went off is the reality.

Including the winner.

Frenkie created more chances and involved in more moves that led to chances.

Girona were never going to maintain pace in second half. Happens all the time. Claiming Barca got better after Pedri came off is arbitrary and coincidental. To claim we got better because he got off would be dense.
 

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