21 - Frenkie de Jong

[FinBarcelonafan]

Meh. Acted like pussy again few times and almost cost us a goal.

I hate his lack of aggression. He doesn't go to challenges with intention to win but intent not to hurt himself. You will lose quite many balls playing like that in the midfield.

 

[draconifire]

He does lack a lot of aspects that are required from CM but also brings a lot of other skills that Casado lacks.

I would still start Casado ahead of him, but it also will depend on the matchups aswell. Teams that play a low block or sit back, FDJ will be a much bigger asset and no brainer to start.

 

[Porque]

Imagine paying 60m on Nico Gonzalez while we are trying to force Frenkie out.

 

[Valiant]

Look at Raphinha's goal, FDJ had the opportunity to make a quick pass to him. Instead he delayed and a Sevilla player covered the angle, meaning opportunity was lost. Cubarsi saw the pass and played it. That's the problem with him, he wastes a lot of time to make decisions.

 

[JamDav1982]

He was ok.. not great not bad. Did what had to do and kept ball moving.

Looked like Sevilla were trying to pick him up early and borderline man mark so he kept pulling the man out of line and playing it simple to others who then found Pedri drifting into the space left to then break lines.

Looked tired in 2nd half.

This idea he doesnt play ball forward is miles off. He is in different league to likes of Casado and Gavi for progressing the ball. He just pick and chooses when to do it.

Up until this season he was the leader of players in La Liga for line breaking through balls of current players. He regularly has amongst the best progressive passing yds and passes etc and amongst the players most involved in moves resulting in goals and chances.

Last night no so much but he did what was needed and the fact likes of Sevilla know they have to keep close to him helps likes of Pedri find space compared to others they want left on ball.

Want to look at a player that struggles to find players ahead of him.. look at Gavi last night. Utterly awful.

 

[Porque]

 

[Bran the Greenseer]

Well I think he played great 😀

 

[JamDav1982]

Look at Raphinha's goal, FDJ had the opportunity to make a quick pass to him. Instead he delayed and a Sevilla player covered the angle, meaning opportunity was lost. Cubarsi saw the pass and played it. That's the problem with him, he wastes a lot of time to make decisions.

To an extent but also the pass from FDJ to Raphinha was half expected and straight pass like that he would barely get chance to take on half turn and defenders been up his arse.

Raph had back to defence and defenders closer albeit not tight.

By time ball went out to Cubarsi Raphinha was in more space and got on half turn to receive it realising what was on.

I would bet my bottom dollar if FDJ played that into Raph feet there he doesnt turn on it way did with Cubarsi pass.

The Cubarsi pass was the better one to take on. More space and Raphinha on half turn to receive it.

Having likes of Cubarsi to recognise it and make the pass is a luxury and why patience pays off there.

 

[Masetro10]

I've been thinking about Frenkie and Flick lately.

Barca's system is very very friendly to the deep lying mids. Playing the high line compresses the team. Why is this good? It basically allows the CDMs to focus on interception and ball recovery and less on duels or heavy counter defense running hard to our own box. Most of the time the opposition try long balls in behind the line or wild through balls. With the defense walking the halfway line it's offside/recovered/intercepted.

Frenkie isn't wonderful at defense and Pedri less so. But it isnt punishable nearly as much. Frenkie is perfect in that situation which is why Casado is obsolete now. Frenkie at his best is 2x Casado just because of his passing and retention. See 4-0 vs RM in the 2nd half as your best example.

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

Deco" We want players like Frenkie de Jong who are hungry for titles," he told Sport.

He continues: “We want Frenkie here and contract talks will take place when the time is right.”


Looks like Deco wants to keep Frenkie, did @Horatio called it?

 

[JamDav1982]

Wouldnt read much into that. It is about all he can say either way to stop speculation which would help no one at this stage.

Deco spoke well in that interview overall.

 

[jamrock]

Let's go for Ruiz or De Paul.

 

[JamDav1982]

Thankfully no one will be moving for Ruiz or De Paul.

They play where Pedri does and better than both.

This is like Reijnders shout when dont understand where he plays.

International football is where its all about.. Ferran won more than Diaz.Leao etc. What a man.

Merino is better than Gavi also with these rules.

 

[jamrock]

Ruiz and de Paul => de jong and a lot less expensive.

Called it yeaaaaaaars ago.

Common W.

 

[JamDav1982]

Fake news...FDJ better than both.

Merino better than Gavi with this logic and Ferran better than Diaz etc.

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