19 - Lamine Yamal

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kilian

Senior Member
BBZ8800 said:
No offense but you don't see it.
You only see the surface.

About the Euros:
1. Yamal's ego wasn't as big since he hadn't win an Euros before that and he wasn't as good as he was this season at Barca.
So, he was more grounded.

2. Also, at Euros, he wasn't surrounded by kids like at Barca but with lots of experienced champions.
He wasn't a diva and an absolute superstar like he is at a current Barca.
He wasn't wawing with his hands to his teammates to get the ball in every single action like today at Barca.

Yamal and forum's post about him is a classic story which we have seen tons of times on this forum.
People are sad.
People need hope.
Barca brings them joy and hope.
Young superstars are the perfect objects to bring the hope and happiness into the lives of fans.
And so the fans are often very subjective, defensive and delusional regarding those objects of hope in the first few years.
It happened with ballhogger Neymar.
Or Dembele.
I have said after 2 matches that Dembele is dumb as fuck, and people were offending me for 2-3 years until everybody realized that: well, Dembele is dumb as fuck.

About my famous love for Rabiot, which is often mentioned here, that story started with our interest in Frenkie De Jong.
Frenkie was hailed as the savior of football and the perfect player who will bring Barca's midfield back to glory.

Guess what?
I was one of the rare posters who was not impressed with Frenkie and who was posting about some problems in his displays for Ajax and Netherlands.
As always, people called me a troll and an idiot, who doesn't understand football and how I don't understand football.

A few years later, Frenkie brought more or less nothing to Barca.

Regarding Rabiot, that spring when we were chasing Frenkie, it was said that the transfer price + sign on bonuses will be around 70-80-90 millions with an insane wages.

In that moment, Rabiot was free and benched by Psg and he wanted to come here.
So, my idea was: is Frenkie for 90m Euros really a better choice than Rabiot for free? On top of that, Frenkie also have a higher salary.

So, my two proposals were:
1. we could sign Rabiot instead of a questionable 90m Frenkie
2. or we should sign both of them.

But people replied: we don't need both of them since we have: Alena, Puig and Baby Oriol Busquets, so we are set for the next 10 years.
I replied: none of those 3 will make it and we could use a profile of Rabiot since we played with a somewhat similar type in those days in Rakitic and Vidal.

So, Rabiot for free didn't look like a such a bad deal.
But Barca fans have a specific type and they rated 90m Frenkie, Puig, Alena and Oriol over Rabiot.
And, as you see, even 6-7 years later people are mocking me for Rabiot.
But how exactly have Frenkie, Alena, Puig and Oriol developed?

With Frenkie, we got a 2:8 defeat in his first season.
Later he has lead us to two group stage KOs and defeats against everyone in Europe.

So, in hindsight, was my idea of Rabiot for free instead of a 90m Frenkie that bad?
Would we have been any worse with Rabiot instead of Frenkie in the last 6 years?

But, the same as with Neymar and Dembele, even Frenkie was a new shiny toy.
Fans, who all have issues and problems in real life, tried to find the escape through football and Barca.
And then their new shiny toy turns into an object of hope for the future and they lose objectivity.
And only start to see the problems after 3-4 years.

Regarding Yamal.
Again, do you live under the rock?
Have you ever followed patterns of human behavior?

How many young Hollywood stars turned to drugs and suicide when they were exposed to fame and money too early in their life?
How many singers had the same fate?
Why do people lose their head when they become a boss on a job?
Why do people lose their heads when they get a chance to be the lawmaker or police (Stanford prison experiment)?
There are millions of examples in every culture in every century how human's behavior often changes with power, money, fame, social status.

And then you have a 17 years old kid who is treated like a God in the last 10 months and you are totally refusing any chances for that scenario?

Btw, a few years ago I have said the same for Halilovic (hailed as the new Messi back then).
He is from my country and I wrote after a few trainings: his head is not in the right place. The kid has a bad surroundings and he has bought his own hype.

As always, I was called an idiot and how I don't understand what a real talent is.
As always, in hindsight, it turned out that a talent and a silky skills is one thing.
But also, there is mental strength and a good, healthy, humble approach towards money, fame, followers, social status.

Again, imo, you guys are way overrating current Yamal's mental state and development.

But hey, let's see.
Let's hope I will really be an idiot this time and Yamal will turn into a true professional who plays with 120% every match and his head isn't in the clouds due to too much money and a cult follo
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What are you talking about, man? But seriously, what the fuck are you talking about?
The guy is almost universally hailed among all football fans as the best player in the world this year and you are almost comparing him to Halilovic situation, money, fame and all that crap?

There is talking crap and then there is this post.
 
Nello

Nello

Member
BBZ8800 said:
No offense but you don't see it.
You only see the surface.

About the Euros:
1. Yamal's ego wasn't as big since he hadn't win an Euros before that and he wasn't as good as he was this season at Barca.
So, he was more grounded.

2. Also, at Euros, he wasn't surrounded by kids like at Barca but with lots of experienced champions.
He wasn't a diva and an absolute superstar like he is at a current Barca.
He wasn't wawing with his hands to his teammates to get the ball in every single action like today at Barca.

Yamal and forum's post about him is a classic story which we have seen tons of times on this forum.
People are sad.
People need hope.
Barca brings them joy and hope.
Young superstars are the perfect objects to bring the hope and happiness into the lives of fans.
And so the fans are often very subjective, defensive and delusional regarding those objects of hope in the first few years.
It happened with ballhogger Neymar.
Or Dembele.
I have said after 2 matches that Dembele is dumb as fuck, and people were offending me for 2-3 years until everybody realized that: well, Dembele is dumb as fuck.

About my famous love for Rabiot, which is often mentioned here, that story started with our interest in Frenkie De Jong.
Frenkie was hailed as the savior of football and the perfect player who will bring Barca's midfield back to glory.

Guess what?
I was one of the rare posters who was not impressed with Frenkie and who was posting about some problems in his displays for Ajax and Netherlands.
As always, people called me a troll and an idiot, who doesn't understand football and how I don't understand football.

A few years later, Frenkie brought more or less nothing to Barca.

Regarding Rabiot, that spring when we were chasing Frenkie, it was said that the transfer price + sign on bonuses will be around 70-80-90 millions with an insane wages.

In that moment, Rabiot was free and benched by Psg and he wanted to come here.
So, my idea was: is Frenkie for 90m Euros really a better choice than Rabiot for free? On top of that, Frenkie also have a higher salary.

So, my two proposals were:
1. we could sign Rabiot instead of a questionable 90m Frenkie
2. or we should sign both of them.

But people replied: we don't need both of them since we have: Alena, Puig and Baby Oriol Busquets, so we are set for the next 10 years.
I replied: none of those 3 will make it and we could use a profile of Rabiot since we played with a somewhat similar type in those days in Rakitic and Vidal.

So, Rabiot for free didn't look like a such a bad deal.
But Barca fans have a specific type and they rated 90m Frenkie, Puig, Alena and Oriol over Rabiot.
And, as you see, even 6-7 years later people are mocking me for Rabiot.
But how exactly have Frenkie, Alena, Puig and Oriol developed?

With Frenkie, we got a 2:8 defeat in his first season.
Later he has lead us to two group stage KOs and defeats against everyone in Europe.

So, in hindsight, was my idea of Rabiot for free instead of a 90m Frenkie that bad?
Would we have been any worse with Rabiot instead of Frenkie in the last 6 years?

But, the same as with Neymar and Dembele, even Frenkie was a new shiny toy.
Fans, who all have issues and problems in real life, tried to find the escape through football and Barca.
And then their new shiny toy turns into an object of hope for the future and they lose objectivity.
And only start to see the problems after 3-4 years.

Regarding Yamal.
Again, do you live under the rock?
Have you ever followed patterns of human behavior?

How many young Hollywood stars turned to drugs and suicide when they were exposed to fame and money too early in their life?
How many singers had the same fate?
Why do people lose their head when they become a boss on a job?
Why do people lose their heads when they get a chance to be the lawmaker or police (Stanford prison experiment)?
There are millions of examples in every culture in every century how human's behavior often changes with power, money, fame, social status.

And then you have a 17 years old kid who is treated like a God in the last 10 months and you are totally refusing any chances for that scenario?

Btw, a few years ago I have said the same for Halilovic (hailed as the new Messi back then).
He is from my country and I wrote after a few trainings: his head is not in the right place. The kid has a bad surroundings and he has bought his own hype.
Two years later we have loaned him to Germany and he said in an interview: "I didn't come to run and defend here. I came to score goals".

Lol. A good attitude.
No wonder his career ended badly even though he had a promising start aged 17.

As always, I was called an idiot and how I don't understand what a real talent is.
As always, in hindsight, it turned out that a talent and a silky skills is one thing.
But also, there is mental strength and a good, healthy, humble approach towards money, fame, followers, social status.

Again, imo, you guys are way overrating current Yamal's mental state and development.

But hey, let's see.
Let's hope I will really be an idiot this time and Yamal will turn into a true professional who plays with 120% every match and his head isn't in the clouds due to too much money and a cult following among fans.

Btw. Bellingham also totally lost his head and bought his hype.
Remember those stupid "I'm HIM" posts (he is the man who will lead England to glory after 60 years).
Since he started to believe that he is "HIM", his form went down a lot.

Another one ruined by money, media and glory.

Real has Vinicius and Bellingham who lost their heads.
And our prodigy was exposed to fame and money way earlier than them, which is way more dangerous.

So, let's see what will happen with his head in the upcoming months.
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Look, nobody said it's not a possibility that he turns bad and let's the hype get into his head. And sure there are plenty of examples of that happening, but it hasn't happened yet to Yamal and so far I don't see the signs of it happening like you are claiming.
What I see (and most other top coaches and players who are praising him) is a 17 year old player with such incredible ability and natural understanding of the game that he is atleast among the top 3 most dangerous offensive players in the world ATM.


You compare him to Neymar and Ousmane, but those are lazy comparisons:
Dembele has amazing athletic ability and low football IQ. Yamal is not fast for a winger, and displays better understanding of the game than many top players 10 years older. Sure, it would have been wiser to go to the corner flag and waste time last night, but other than that he made many good decisions that night and was incredibly unlucky to hit the post for a 3rd time. To use that example to call him dumb is cherry picking and disingenious.
Neymar wasn't as mature and wasn't a leader for his team, which Yamal clearly is.

If you listen to his interviews, he is confident but calm. Like he said, he dyed his hair because he is just a bored 17 year old so why not.

Matter of the fact is the kid has been one of our best and most influential player across the season, and is certainly the most irreplaceable player right now. He's shown up for all our big matches, and was by far our best player in these two semis. He isn't a perfect player yet as DonAK said, and could most definitely improve his finishing, but he was unlucky to not get more goals in these games and played well. He didn't ballhog in any way, was incredibly direct and always sought solutions. His presence alone created a lot of space for teammates.

I will care about his mentality and IG posts once it affects the team on the pitch, but in these two games he was our best player so there's no need to at the moment.

Ask Inzaghi which Barca player he'd rather have had on his team after these games, or Bastoni if he caused any trouble for them.
 
jamrock

jamrock

Senior Member
Did everything but score, over these two games, he showed why within a shadow of a doubt he's the best player in the world right now.

Fuck you sommer for having a worldie yesterday
 
MonteCuler

MonteCuler

Well-known member
Best and most important player of this Barca team, hopefully everyone understands that by now

The most obvious proof ever is reactions after this game. Grown men who dropped shameful performances yasterday are not getting half the criticism he is. Even though he had a literal masterclass over two legs

Expectations have already gone to insanity, not a good thing
 
KingLeo10

KingLeo10

Senior Member
BBZ8800 said:
No offense but you don't see it.
You only see the surface.

About the Euros:
1. Yamal's ego wasn't as big since he hadn't win an Euros before that and he wasn't as good as he was this season at Barca.
So, he was more grounded.

2. Also, at Euros, he wasn't surrounded by kids like at Barca but with lots of experienced champions.
He wasn't a diva and an absolute superstar like he is at a current Barca.
He wasn't wawing with his hands to his teammates to get the ball in every single action like today at Barca.

Yamal and forum's post about him is a classic story which we have seen tons of times on this forum.
People are sad.
People need hope.
Barca brings them joy and hope.
Young superstars are the perfect objects to bring the hope and happiness into the lives of fans.
And so the fans are often very subjective, defensive and delusional regarding those objects of hope in the first few years.
It happened with ballhogger Neymar.
Or Dembele.
I have said after 2 matches that Dembele is dumb as fuck, and people were offending me for 2-3 years until everybody realized that: well, Dembele is dumb as fuck.

About my famous love for Rabiot, which is often mentioned here, that story started with our interest in Frenkie De Jong.
Frenkie was hailed as the savior of football and the perfect player who will bring Barca's midfield back to glory.

Guess what?
I was one of the rare posters who was not impressed with Frenkie and who was posting about some problems in his displays for Ajax and Netherlands.
As always, people called me a troll and an idiot, who doesn't understand football and how I don't understand football.

A few years later, Frenkie brought more or less nothing to Barca.

Regarding Rabiot, that spring when we were chasing Frenkie, it was said that the transfer price + sign on bonuses will be around 70-80-90 millions with an insane wages.

In that moment, Rabiot was free and benched by Psg and he wanted to come here.
So, my idea was: is Frenkie for 90m Euros really a better choice than Rabiot for free? On top of that, Frenkie also have a higher salary.

So, my two proposals were:
1. we could sign Rabiot instead of a questionable 90m Frenkie
2. or we should sign both of them.

But people replied: we don't need both of them since we have: Alena, Puig and Baby Oriol Busquets, so we are set for the next 10 years.
I replied: none of those 3 will make it and we could use a profile of Rabiot since we played with a somewhat similar type in those days in Rakitic and Vidal.

So, Rabiot for free didn't look like a such a bad deal.
But Barca fans have a specific type and they rated 90m Frenkie, Puig, Alena and Oriol over Rabiot.
And, as you see, even 6-7 years later people are mocking me for Rabiot.
But how exactly have Frenkie, Alena, Puig and Oriol developed?

With Frenkie, we got a 2:8 defeat in his first season.
Later he has lead us to two group stage KOs and defeats against everyone in Europe.

So, in hindsight, was my idea of Rabiot for free instead of a 90m Frenkie that bad?
Would we have been any worse with Rabiot instead of Frenkie in the last 6 years?

But, the same as with Neymar and Dembele, even Frenkie was a new shiny toy.
Fans, who all have issues and problems in real life, tried to find the escape through football and Barca.
And then their new shiny toy turns into an object of hope for the future and they lose objectivity.
And only start to see the problems after 3-4 years.

Regarding Yamal.
Again, do you live under the rock?
Have you ever followed patterns of human behavior?

How many young Hollywood stars turned to drugs and suicide when they were exposed to fame and money too early in their life?
How many singers had the same fate?
Why do people lose their head when they become a boss on a job?
Why do people lose their heads when they get a chance to be the lawmaker or police (Stanford prison experiment)?
There are millions of examples in every culture in every century how human's behavior often changes with power, money, fame, social status.

And then you have a 17 years old kid who is treated like a God in the last 10 months and you are totally refusing any chances for that scenario?

Btw, a few years ago I have said the same for Halilovic (hailed as the new Messi back then).
He is from my country and I wrote after a few trainings: his head is not in the right place. The kid has a bad surroundings and he has bought his own hype.
Two years later we have loaned him to Germany and he said in an interview: "I didn't come to run and defend here. I came to score goals".

Lol. A good attitude.
No wonder his career ended badly even though he had a promising start aged 17.

As always, I was called an idiot and how I don't understand what a real talent is.
As always, in hindsight, it turned out that a talent and a silky skills is one thing.
But also, there is mental strength and a good, healthy, humble approach towards money, fame, followers, social status.

Again, imo, you guys are way overrating current Yamal's mental state and development.

But hey, let's see.
Let's hope I will really be an idiot this time and Yamal will turn into a true professional who plays with 120% every match and his head isn't in the clouds due to too much money and a cult following among fans.

Btw. Bellingham also totally lost his head and bought his hype.
Remember those stupid "I'm HIM" posts (he is the man who will lead England to glory after 60 years).
Since he started to believe that he is "HIM", his form went down a lot.

Another one ruined by money, media and glory.

Real has Vinicius and Bellingham who lost their heads.
And our prodigy was exposed to fame and money way earlier than them, which is way more dangerous.

So, let's see what will happen with his head in the upcoming months.
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Missed you, dawg.

I agree with most of your takes about last night but Yamal showed me a crazy playing level in these few games that bodes well. Very big mistake in the break at the end but he’s 17 and this will make him better.

Needs to drop the hair color and other s
social media clownery tho.
 
Nello

Nello

Member
gasgas said:
We were so happy and enjoying before this bbz clown decided to show up.

Bringing the forum morale to an all time low
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BBZ classic:
Predict all Young talents fail (everybody knows the majority do fail).

Then only return and claim you have special insights and others only see it at surface level once the youngster has a bad game or fails.

Disappear for the rest of the time.

Only baffling thing is this time he returned right after after everyone with eyes could see Yamal balled and lead a comeback in the CL semis.
 
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