Maradona37
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Do you rate Gavi? I do, but I think Pedri is better.
19 - Lamine Yamal
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Yes but he lost his way a bit with the fake hardman act and should have been kept focused on the football.
He was a better player at his breakthrough than a few years later which is a bit of a worry. Xavi special though.
Maradona37
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Yeah I would agree. He is unusual for a Barca Spanish midfielder in that he seems more interested in getting stuck in and arguing (as you say) than actual technical stuff.
Still he's a gifted lad and so young himself at 20.
Mainoo is a talented boy, I just found it funny that some posters are downplaying Yamal and looking for excuses to do so, while simultaneously getting carried away by Man United prospect Manioo. Bias as always. They hate Barca on there.
Lost his game abit having to impose himself in pro ball imo. Then he started getting lauded for his hardman act and it went from there. But above you can see his natural game.
As for Mainoo, RedCafe is Bizzaro land in the best of times. Mainoo and Lamine are totally different types of players and talents. Better to compare Lamine to Garnacion or Diallo, and Mainoo with Gavi or Pedri.
Maradona37
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Yeah you can really see Gavi's talent.
Yes, Redcafe is a bizarre and strange site, and they never learn about overrating Man United players. To be fair to them, though, they weren't directly comparing the two players (as you say they're very different). I just seen some of the same names downplaying Yamal in his thread and salivating over Mainoo in his,
jamrock
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Gavi never loses he only adds, the season we won the title due to injuries to pedri and no left winger, he was force to play as a L.A.M.
Last season before the injury he dropped back to his original position and was shitting on everyone, including Bellingham, but that's pretty easy to do TBH.
Definitely a better player now, than when he first came through, he shouldn't lose the "fake" hard man, that's apart of what makes him special, how much technically gifted Midfielders does La masia produce, we'll probably have one that's better than pedri in 2-3 years, but not another gavi.
Yamal is pretty fast, dinho wasn't Henry fast, but was a better dribbler, Nico is faster than Yamal, who would you fear more running at you with the ball?.
Last season before the injury he dropped back to his original position and was shitting on everyone, including Bellingham, but that's pretty easy to do TBH.
Definitely a better player now, than when he first came through, he shouldn't lose the "fake" hard man, that's apart of what makes him special, how much technically gifted Midfielders does La masia produce, we'll probably have one that's better than pedri in 2-3 years, but not another gavi.
Yamal is pretty fast, dinho wasn't Henry fast, but was a better dribbler, Nico is faster than Yamal, who would you fear more running at you with the ball?.
Maradona37
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Good post. Love the dig at Bellend too.
CatalinR10
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Tbf many games Gavi only tried to play it rough. No passing, no control. Hope after injury, he will improve.
Givenchy
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Went from "Yamal's ceiling is Pedro/Alexis Sanchez let's not get carried away, Garnacho is better" - Yamal scores a worldie with the most assists- "Barca will ruin him meep meep meep meep Barca bad Barca bad meep meep Barca will ruin this kid like Ansupedrigavibojandemirtodibo levers levers meep meep"
Mainoo is an incredible talent though, can't blame them too much for getting carried away but I dislike how they shit on the likes of Rice or any midfielder next to him if England play poorly.
Maradona37
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Yeah they are clowns. So biased and bitter and they hate when other clubs get praised and they don't.
I am not a Garnacho fan tbh, just a head down and run merchant.
Tbf I am not much of a fan of Rice myself, but with them it's their bias - if Rice played for them he'd be better than Rijkaard according to them.
As for Mainoo, I rate him, he's good, but I wouldn't call him an 'incredible' talent. He still has plenty to work on, his positioning and tracking of runners, for example. I am not convinced he will be the player they're expecting him to be, but we will see. This will be one of the biggest tests of his career so far.
CatalinR10
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Happy birthday baby GOAT !!!
Givenchy
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You're right about Garnacho. The maturity and football IQ difference between him and Yamal is night and day and Lamine is 3 years younger.
Also don't think Mainoo's position is figured out yet, 6 or 8? Still very young himself but what impresses me is his fearlessness and attitude. He was brilliant in that FA cup final and the big occasions don't faze him, his one weakness currently is stamina and positioning without the ball. Playing midfield is one of the most difficult positions so I cut him some slack. As much as I despise United, Mainoo is the real deal and I love his attitude, seems like a humble kid.
Maradona37
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Yeah, I respect if someone disagrees with me - I don't always claim to be right. But I don't get it with Garnacho. He just seems like a runner with no football IQ and who runs down blind alleys. It will work for him now and then but I don't think he's up to much. As you say Lamine is night and day with his elegance, football IQ and maturity. Garnacho is three years older and looks much more raw - though it's exceptionally rare for a 16 year old to look as polished as Lamine does.
Fair enough, maybe I am being harsh on Mainoo - he does seem a good lad. It could just be that I hate Man United and don't want them to have any good players, lol. It seems we have common consensus with believing that his positioning is the issue right now, but he will likely refine that. Like you say to be impressing in midfield (the hardest position on the pitch for a young player especially) is impressive.
I think I'd want him to do better if he was at Barca and not Man United. Maybe I need to stop with the bias too, like Redcafe.
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