11 - Raphinha

[soul24rage]

I'd happily pay that 7m to Leeds if we win the CL

 

[Porque]

Instead of paying the 7m we could give Leeds United a few of the VIP tickets that we trying to flog off in exchange.

Their owners would appreciate being able to watch good football.

 

[jamrock]

7 mill sours the deal, I'd rather not win the CL TBH

 

[Gazzznigga]

Wether Xavi was a good coach or not is open to interpretation. What matters is that he was a champion coach for us in very difficult circumstances. Champion and "not even decent" are two ideas that do not mix well for reasonable people.

For example and context, Roberto Di Matteo is considered decent coach worldwide(by all critics), just on the shoulder of winning a historic Champions league in a difficult situation too(won nothihg after and disappeared).

Dont think Xavi comes close in achievement except in deluded minds .

And If you placed Xavi ahead of Di Matteo in any ranking, then you would have crossed the line demarcating decent and good, after which is great, and we know Xavis was neither good nor great as a Barca coach. He never won a champions league to be considered "decent" enough.

He was a great player and a legend of immeasurable proportion for Barca, but as a coach, he was not great nor good and even to be labelled decent is arguable. Just like Diego Maradona and other great players that never achieved close to proportion of their status as a player.

 

[iniestaGOAT]

Ok. We hail Xavi for the signing of Raphinha. 👏

But we would never want him close to the bench of La masia cadets or Barca Femeni again....!!

Thanks for admitting Xavi is yo daddy

 

[Temptation]

Thanks for admitting Xavi is yo daddy

You'd be worshipping @Gazzznigga if that was the case...........

 

[Gazzznigga]

Prove it.

Travel to Madrid and ask them that there.....lol

 

[Joan]

Wether Xavi was a good coach or not is open to interpretation. What matters is that he was a champion coach for us in very difficult circumstances. Champion and "not even decent" are two ideas that do not mix well for reasonable people.

 

[vegitot]

Then managed to misuse him for 2 seasons before eventually discovering he should not hug the touchline at the very end

Then of course managed to get praised for it by some although a competent coach would have done it from the start

He surely didn't play like this when he was with Leeds. Neither ever with Brazil NT. Only from last season when Xavi started this trend.

Check his heatmap and see yourself.

 

[serghei]

For example and context, Roberto Di Matteo is considered decent coach worldwide(by all critics), just on the shoulder of winning a historic Champions league in a difficult situation too(won nothihg after and disappeared).

Dont think Xavi comes close in achievement except in deluded minds .

And If you placed Xavi ahead of Di Matteo in any ranking, then you would have crossed the line demarcating decent and good, after which is great, and we know Xavis was neither good nor great as a Barca coach. He never won a champions league to be considered "decent" enough.

He was a great player and a legend of immeasurable proportion for Barca, but as a coach, he was not great nor good and even to be labelled decent is arguable. Just like Diego Maradona and other great players that never achieved close to proportion of their status as a player.

Roberto Di Matteo didn't win any league titles. You can get lucky in Champions League, especially when you have match-winners like Drogba providing clutch goals at the right moment, keepers like Petr Cech, or defenders like that Chelsea side had. But, over 38 games, you have to be the best in the competition to win it. Luck factor goes down by a lot in league format.

 

[jamrock]

Imagine thinking Roberto Di Matteo winning the CL is more difficult that winning a league title.

SMH.

The things you hear on your for people to push their narratives

This is akin to winning the league was a fluke.

 

[Horatio]

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moving goalpost?

 

[jamrock]

Travel to Madrid and ask them that there.....lol

Thought so lol

 

[jamrock]

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How is he moving the goal post? Did i miss something? Lol.

Not even decent and winning a league title definitely doesn't go in the same sentence.

 

[serghei]

Imagine thinking Roberto Di Matteo winning the CL is more difficult that winning a league title.

SMH.

The things you hear on your for people to push their narratives

This is akin to winning the league was a fluke.

It is tremendously difficult to win CL, but that Chelsea team had 5-6 incredible players tbh. It's not like he took over some bums and he won CL with them.

Not even decent and winning a league title definitely doesn't go in the same sentence.

2022-23 Barcelona and Simeone's Atletico, especially the 2020-21 side, were the weakest teams to win league titles in Spain in the last 2 decades. The manager's role in achieving those results was very very high.

When Xavi took the team in November 2021, we were a hot mess. We weren't even good enough to qualify from CL groups. Not even good enough to win EL.