11 - Raphinha

[Maradona37]

It isnt though.. I am arguing against the idea that folk who watched him every week that season thought he was poor and have used the Man U fans, players and those at PFA who had them on that short list to back that up.

The point is these people voted for him over Haaland and De Bruyne, who were clearly far better than him in even his best ever season of 22-23 - they're either clueless or biased, more likely the latter.

And again, look at the battering Rashford was taking for his performances that season before the world cup. Cheers.

 

[JamDav1982]

Anyway continue to cling to it, Maybe being voted 'Fans POTY 22-23' will inspire Rashford to never before seen levels and he will lead United to the PL trophy over Guardiola's boys this season

Aye 'clinging to it'.

Go do your chores.

Good lad.

 

[JamDav1982]

The point is these people voted for him over Haaland and De Bruyne, who were clearly far better than him in even his best ever season of 22-23 - they're either clueless or biased, more likely the latter.

And again, look at the battering Rashford was taking for his performances that season before the world cup. Cheers.

No.. the point is the Man Utd fans who watched him voted him the best at the club that season as did the players and those from PFA who shortlisted him for that award.

Not difficult to understand point being made that those who watched did not think he was poor.

Although you lied about not saying poor but never mind.

 

[Maradona37]

said he was poor harshly and for effect.

He was good (overall game was poor but players like him are all about stats), but more like a 7.5/10. You seem to think he was a 9.5 though and one of the best players in the world that season, reaching Salah like levels.

No.

And even if he was (doubtful) it was a fucking anomaly. And anyone who 'gambles' on him based on that isolated season, is a moron.

merci.

 

[JamDav1982]

said he was poor harshly and for effect.

He was good (overall game was poor but players like him are all about stats), but more like a 7.5/10. You seem to think h was a 9.5 though and one of the best players in the world that season, reaching Salah like levels.

No.

Then denied saying poor but nevermind.

No.. what I have said was he was in my opinion a 100m player level on that season and those who watched him.. fans, players and PFA agreed he was their best player.

Simple as that.

I have stuck to that all the way through.. you have gone from he was 'poor' to 'good'

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

@Porque it wont stop today 🥸

 

[Maradona37]

Then denied saying it...

Sorry for not having a photographic memory and memorising every point you or I have made in the last 7/8 pages or whatever.

He was good STATSWISE, not as good as you are making out in terms of overall performance. The end.

 

[Maradona37]

Anyway Jammy son, I take it Rashy deserved the 22-23 'Fans POTY' over Haaland and De Bruyne? Him winning that totally didn't make an absolute cunt of that award and prove it's just about tribalism

Cheers.

 

[JamDav1982]

Sorry for not having a photographic memory and memorising every point you or I have made in the last 7/8 pages or whatever.

He was good STATSWISE, not as good as you are making out in terms of overall performance. The end.

It doesnt need a memory it needs being consistent.

He was good as shown by stats, fans, players and PFA.

The end..maybe.

 

[JamDav1982]

Anyway Jammy son, I take it Rashy deserved the 22-23 'Fans POTY' over Haaland and De Bruyne? Him winning that totally didn't make an absolute cunt of that award and prove it's just about tribalism

Cheers.

Fake news.

Never claimed that.

Trust me I am ten steps ahead of you and know what you will argue about that award..hence why emphasised the PFA short list part as being relevant to the argument.

 

[Maradona37]

It doesnt need a memory it needs being consistent.

He was good as shown by stats, fans, players and PFA.

The end..maybe.

Stats, not overall performance. He scored goals even in games where he was otherwise on the periphery. I thought from your comments last night you don't just care about stats? Or is it only when it's about Raphinha that stats don't matter?

Players who voted Fernandes better than dalot last season, and fans who claimed he was better than haaland and Kev in 22-23

Cheers.

 

[Maradona37]

Fake news.

Never claimed that.

Trust me I am ten steps ahead of you and know what you will argue about that award..hence why emphasised the PFA short list part as being relevant to the argument.

You're 39 steps behind.

Short list. Were other players on that list who performed as well as him? Or are they not as hyped in the media?

 

[Maradona37]

Also, didn't Casemiro get in the team of the year over Rodri that season?

These awards are often bollocks, accept it. Stop clinging to them like a bunny boiler clings to a man.]

Man United get more hype than man City, they're the establishment club in England and there will always be a bias towards their players where it is possible.

the end.

 

[JamDav1982]

Stats, not overall performance. He scored goals even in games where he was otherwise on the periphery. I thought from your comments last night you don't just care about stats? Or is it only when it's about Raphinha that stats don't matter?

Players who voted Fernandes better than dalot last season, and fans who claimed he was better than haaland and Kev in 22-23

Cheers.

No both.. stats and performance.

Gone from 'poor' to 'good' though so you have been educated in part.

 

[JamDav1982]

Also, didn't Casemiro get in the team of the year over Rodri that season?

These awards are often bollocks, accept it. Stop clinging to them like a bunny boiler clings to a man.

Ah awards are pointless... yet you argue those that watch know he was poor when those that watch.. fans, players and PFA disagree.

My apologies not 'poor' now but 'good'.

'Bunny boiler clings to a man'.

Yuk.. new low that one.