1 - Marc-Andre ter Stegen

[serghei]

Madrid back-up had a good spell, but he ain't a better GK overall than Stegen. We saw at the Euros what his real level looks like.

We can make a case of Pena being shit, but it's not like Stegen wanted it that way. We had Cillessen and Neto before that, not any worse than what other clubs have.

Again with Courtois . I ask you again - which big club has similar level GKs?

Don't give a shite about spells or not. Man played instead of Courtois, delivered, they won CL + La Liga the year Courtois was out injured for most of the season.

That's a solid back-up who doesn't get scared by pressure of filling in for probably best keeper in the world.

Maybe Stegen is just unlucky. Good spells in CL stick to him like oil sticks to water.

 

[serghei]

Btw, I already explained. Most top teams have top keepers like Alisson, Courtois, Oblak, Donnarumma, not likes of Stegen. That's why they don't need a lot of competition from the 2nd keeper.

When your starting keeper is average, certainly not anywhere close to elite, you need a better 2nd keeper. The names mentioned above are all proven far above Stegen.

That's what we're aiming at also. We hope Garcia will be one of the top keepers in Europe shortly, and with Garcia as starter, and Tek as a good back-up on low wages, GK position is set for near future.

 

[Horatio]

Donnarumma is not in clear yet. Needs to keep current level at least 1/2 more season. Otherwise just standout season.

But yeah, in any case Ter Stegen will not be considered a significant upgrade.

 

[serghei]

Donnarumma is not in clear yet. Needs to keep current level at least 1/2 more season. Otherwise just standout season.

But yeah, in any case Ter Stegen will not be considered a significant upgrade.

In the clear compared to who? Stegen? Please... Stegen is not capable of having the season Donnarumma had. Man has offer from Galatasaray ffs.

 

[malvolio]

Don't give a shite about spells or not. Man played instead of Courtois, delivered, they won CL + La Liga the year Courtois was out injured for most of the season.

That's a solid back-up who doesn't get scared by pressure of filling in for probably best keeper in the world.

Maybe Stegen is just unlucky. Good spells in CL stick to him like oil sticks to water.

As per usual you don't use common sense or your brain before posting. You don't give a shite because it suits your hateful argument. Otherwise a bum like Lunin would have all of Europe's big clubs chasing him.

I know, for you good spells in CL means Stegen saving us. Funny how that doesn't apply to Courtois when Madrid were eliminated.

Btw, I already explained. Most top teams have top keepers like Alisson, Courtois, Oblak, Donnarumma, not likes of Stegen. That's why they don't need a lot of competition from the 2nd keeper.

When your starting keeper is average, certainly not anywhere close to elite, you need a better 2nd keeper. The names mentioned above are all proven far above Stegen.

That's what we're aiming at also. We hope Garcia will be one of the top keepers in Europe shortly, and with Garcia as starter, and Tek as a good back-up on low wages, GK position is set for near future.

Aside from Courtois and Oblak in his prime, Alisson or Donnarumma aren't clearly better. And even if we consider all 4 better than Stegen he would still be in top 5. Which is not bad at all.

Average GK but we kept him 10 years. Yeah mate, all the managers we had were idiots(even with lots of money at hand) and we didn't consider replacing Stegen because he has the media at his little finger, right?

Aim all you want, Donnarumma has been a calamity in CL many times. Alisson had bad seasons also.

 

[draconifire]

PS: If he is really injured, so shame on those stupid journalists who kept painting him as some diva wo is refusing to train with the team.

I think it was reported that he has some back issues, that's why we was training inside, and only doing gym or something.
I think I read it on twitter or here.

 

[serghei]

As per usual you don't use common sense or your brain before posting. You don't give a shite because it suits your hateful argument. Otherwise a bum like Lunin would have all of Europe's big clubs chasing him.

I do not care about that. I care only about what happened. And what happened is Lunin did great and Madrid won the CL with him as man of the match in their most difficult match, away at City, under the biggest pressure.

That's factual.

Stegen did none of that. Do not care about explanations. One delivered what our supposed "top keeper" could never do so far.

Your explanation isn't in any way more interesting than the supposed luck Madrid always have in CL. It's mainly about being competitive and not caving under pressure. Stegen is soft, and because he is soft, in the biggest pressure moments, he flopps the hardest.

 

[malvolio]

I do not care about that. I care only about what happened. And what happened is Lunin did great and Madrid won the CL with him as man of the match in their most difficult match, away at City, under the biggest pressure.

That's factual.

Stegen did none of that. Do not care about explanations. One delivered what our supposed "top keeper" could never do so far.

Your explanation isn't in any way more interesting than the supposed luck Madrid always have in CL. It's about mainly about being competitive and not caving under pressure. Stegen is soft, and because he is soft, in the biggest pressure moments, he flopped the hardest.

So let's just all get Lunins in goal and ditch established GKs that perform week in week out. Mate, you're a clown.

 

[serghei]

So let's just all get Lunins in goal and ditch established GKs that perform week in week out. Mate, you're a clown.

Established GK... ...

 

[Porque]

Villarreal are after Lunin, so that's the level he is at a starter.

Stegen is a level above, but clearly fucked by injuries and lack of recovery right now.

Stegen 22/23, in an overall lower block team, was a top keeper. I don't think you would see a season like that out of Lunin.

 

[malvolio]

Villarreal are after Lunin, so that's the level he is at a starter.

Stegen is a level above, but clearly fucked by injuries and lack of recovery right now.

Stegen 22/23, in an overall lower block team, was a top keeper.

There are many things to consider, if one uses his brain a bit. Would Oblak be that good in a setup like Barca's where defense is not a priority and high lines are usually the standard?

Just cherry picking some performances of an otherwise mediocre at best GK is not good judgement. By the numbers Ter Stegen has always been in the top GKs in the world, whether we like it or not.

 

[serghei]

Villarreal are after Lunin, so that's the level he is at a starter.

Stegen is a level above, but clearly fucked by injuries and lack of recovery right now.

Stegen 22/23, in an overall lower block team, was a top keeper. I don't think you would see a season like that out of Lunin.

Except he conceded 2 goals from a combined 0.1 xG vs Frankfurt in Europe in the quarterfinals. That same season. Even in his so-called best season, liability in European cups.

Was a season above. In 2022-23 it was United.

 

[serghei]

There are many things to consider, if one uses his brain a bit. Would Oblak be that good in a setup like Barca's where defense is not a priority and high lines are usually the standard?

Just cherry picking some performances of an otherwise mediocre at best GK is not good judgement. By the numbers Ter Stegen has always been in the top GKs in the world, whether we like it or not.

What numbers are you talking about, out of curiousity?

 

[serghei]

Villarreal are after Lunin, so that's the level he is at a starter.

Stegen is a level above, but clearly fucked by injuries and lack of recovery right now.

Stegen 22/23, in an overall lower block team, was a top keeper. I don't think you would see a season like that out of Lunin.

Probably a better team than Galatasaray.

 

[Porque]

Except he conceded 2 goals from a combined 0.1 xG vs Frankfurt in Europe in the quarterfinals. That same season. Even in his so-called best season, liability in European cups.

Was a season above. In 2022-23 it was United.

That was pre hairjob, 21/22.