1 - Marc-Andre ter Stegen

khaled_a_d

Senior Member
He can stay all he wants. But its good for us.
We can unregister him. And free up a huge salary cap. Use it to register Garcia and 1 more player.

Thats all we need. Kinda good for us.

We don't.
We have to prove we lose him for 4 months in the season (not a sure thing) and in such case we create a temporarily cap space of 80% of his wage and until January, and if the laws stay the same, we need to register such player permanently before end of the year or otherwise it is illegal.
Then, those extra salary we paid, get deducted from 26/27 season.

Also, I am not sure how another surgery is good if the club wants to get rid of him.

PS: If he is really injured, so shame on those stupid journalists who kept painting him as some diva wo is refusing to train with the team.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Makes no sense for him to refuse training with the team out of some diva behavior and then get his starting spot back like he dreams of. He probably has some type of problems. Like Stegen or not, it still has to make sense.

Situation with Stegen is simple to me. If he's happy to be a tourist in Barcelona, much like Ansu for a year, he can stay and get paid. If not, he has to leave. The chances he will be back as starter are super-slim. He ain't good enough.

Doubt the problem with Stegen was motivation, and that he performed under his actual ability because of low competition and now he's gonna soar high and prove what a top keeper he is. To me, it's a lack of quality that has been apparent all these years.

He will get replaced by not one but two better keepers and he will eventually leave when he sees there's no going back for him.
 

TheStig

Member
Doubt it. I think La Liga will check if the surgery thing is real. You can't make it up.
That's also true.

Probably his back is really fucked which would explain why the club even went for Garcia. It was always unbelivable to me that they woke up after 10 years and realize MATS is shit. The idiots would keep him for another 5 years if his back wasn't fucked.
 

serghei

Senior Member
That's also true.

Probably his back is really fucked which would explain why the club even went for Garcia. It was always unbelivable to me that they woke up after 10 years and realize MATS is shit. The idiots would keep him for another 5 years if his back wasn't fucked.

Why? The manager has to make these calls, and Flick didn't take long to realize that for his type of football to work, you need a keeper who saves tough shots constantly.

Stegen got used to having no competition and the starting position was basically gifted to him... and now this changed. He probably messed up by acting up on this change of status quo and this was the end of him.

When a player moans about competition, it's a huge red flag.

Tek could have done better vs Inter. Could have saved 2-3 of those 7 goals he conceded. Some were unsaveable, but a few were not. Not easy shots by all means, but top keepers are expected to save tough shots regularly.

Club simply needed a better option than Tek and Stegen, and let's hope we finally have a keeper that we can trust again. Not since those 2 seasons of Bravo did I experience this sensation as a fan.
 
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TheStig

Member
We know how long this club kept MATS, Busi, Alba, Suarez despite their performances, that's why it's hard to believe that they found some common sense and tried to replace. It's much more believable that the injury problems are true and that forced them to buy a new GK. Don't forget that Laporta extended his contract, not Bartomeu.

Doesn't really matter now, the only important thing is that he isn't nowhere near the pitch.
 

Messi983

Senior Member
My man knows ball.

"Between Joan García and Ter Stegen, it's very easy. Ter Stegen plays," he said, adding that "he's the captain and a highly respected player at Barça."
 

Horatio

You're welcome
My man knows ball.

"Between Joan García and Ter Stegen, it's very easy. Ter Stegen plays," he said, adding that "he's the captain and a highly respected player at Barça."

The astute reader will notice how "keeping qualities" are not named as reason as to why Ter Stegen gets preference lol.

If he should start simply cause he is respected and captain, it means he's cooked.
 

malvolio

Senior Member
Stegen got used to having no competition and the starting position was basically gifted to him... and now this changed. He probably messed up by acting up on this change of status quo and this was the end of him.
Can we finally get rid of this crap about GKs having competition when most clubs have a clear no 1 and the backup is usually 2-3 levels below the starter? Otherwise what's the point for the guy on the bench to stay at the club, when he could very well be starting somewhere else?

Aside from the Bravo-Stegen, Navas-Courtois, Navas-Donnarumma, Tek-Alisson examples(which didn't last long for obvious reasons), which club has 2 top/equal level GKs competing for a starting spot?
 

serghei

Senior Member
Can we finally get rid of this crap about GKs having competition when most clubs have a clear no 1 and the backup is usually 2-3 levels below the starter? Otherwise what's the point for the guy on the bench to stay at the club, when he could very well be starting somewhere else?

Aside from the Bravo-Stegen, Navas-Courtois, Navas-Donnarumma, Tek-Alisson examples(which didn't last long for obvious reasons), which club has 2 top/equal level GKs competing for a starting spot?

Yeah, except Madrid back-up played a big part in them winning the Champions League last year. While our keepers... less said about then in CL vs big teams the better. When their back-up is better in CL at saving shots than your starting keeper, that's when your theory goes out the window.

Bottom line, you can have a weaker back-up if your no1 is one of the best keepers in the world. When your starting keeper is a specialist in failure in CL... you can't have a weak back-up.

If we had Courtois, obviously we wouldn't have signed Garcia. But we have Stegen, who's not fit to carry Courtois' gloves.
 

malvolio

Senior Member
Yeah, except Madrid back-up played a big part in them winning the Champions League last year. While our keepers... less said about then in CL vs big teams the better. When their back-up is better in CL at saving shots than your starting keeper, that's when your theory goes out the window.

Bottom line, you can have a weaker back-up if your no1 is one of the best keepers in the world. When your starting keeper is a specialist in failure in CL... you can't have a weak back-up.

If we had Courtois, obviously we wouldn't have signed Garcia. But we have Stegen, who's not fit to carry Courtois' gloves.
Madrid back-up had a good spell, but he ain't a better GK overall than Stegen. We saw at the Euros what his real level looks like.

We can make a case of Pena being shit, but it's not like Stegen wanted it that way. We had Cillessen and Neto before that, not any worse than what other clubs have.

Again with Courtois :lol:. I ask you again - which big club has similar level GKs?
 

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