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Naa Chelsea were on top and winning even before that. They miss Caicedo a lot, and also they lack maturity. When everyone expects them to lose they perform at a different level to when the pressure is on.

It's not like Foden has had a long run of playing in the #10 for City either.

Ha ha.

Systemic problems created individual errors because things go wrong and players start constantly second guessing their decisions.

He was played in lots of different positions under Southgate tbf and never really performed other than the last World Cup, where he was on the left.

When lots of players suddently look finished you have to think it's more of a systemic problem with the way the team is set up rather than just a big coincidence.

Tuchel said he sees him as a #9½ and I think that's probably right. For England he will probably be backup for Kane more than Bellingham or Rogers.

Also the loss of Jota has probably affected them in ways that can't really be quantified.

The fickleness of football fans is undefeated.

They don't have the stamina and the maturity to challenge for a title. They can raise themselves for big games though.

Should be a red card for Estêvão really. Blatant kick out. Low impulse control retards in the Chelsea squad.

Chukwueze is a serious player.

4-5 from 1-5 City are on the brink of total collapse.

We're talking about which football league is stronger. The "pride" aspect is something you invented inside your own head.

Then why is there no La Liga equivalent?

If the league is built for Real and Barca to succeed no matter what then you basically already have an entire country backing you. Besides, the argument was about the strength of the respective leagues, and Chelsea finished 6th and 4th the years they won it.

6 CLs in 10 years becomes a lot less impressive when you realise they're all from the same two teams that the entire league is built to maximise the output of, the ONLY two La Liga teams that have ever won it.

Who is stopping La Liga from generating more revenue?

Vinicius would drive me nuts if I were a Madrid supporter.