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well, comparison was there for the taking i guess. koeman telling suarez that he is not needed, but if nothing happens he might stay. laporta telling koeman he is not needed, but if no alternative is found he might stay. and as in suarez case, most fans want koeman gone. so it's easier no to...

Circus FC we move! :alveshat:

i don't neglect anything as i wasn't the one to come up with this shitty argument about G/A per minutes in all season/all comps. the fact is you missed the friendlies, world cup qualifiers and nations league games in which griezmann played in but suarez didn't. not only liga and CL matter, but...

Laporta doing to Koeman what the Dutchman did to Suarez basically :lol:

if it favors your narrative, of course otherwise, let's look at the competitions they've both played in: suarez - G/A every 124 minutes (La Liga + CL) griezmann - G/A every 142 minutes (La Liga + CL) as you know already, griezmann has an advantage if you just throw in all the games in a...

if we go down that route, we will never end debating. griezmann's work rate hardly helps if you look at our conceded goals. it's the same as last year with suarez strolling around. we can compare the finishing quality, opposition quality, moments in matches and what those goals/assists...

a fair assessment would have been to separately compare the competitions they both played in. suarez better in the league. griezmann better in the CL.

same logic could be used in reverse. what if suarez played in the copa and supercopa? what if he wasn't injured for 6 games in the league? you could say yeah, but that means more minutes. on the other hand he maybe would have scored lots in first rounds of copa against shite teams(that was his...

it matters, as griezmann had more chances to bolster his stats.

had to follow up on the joke brah. yes, he did terrible in that CL group. but leipzig is on another level than ferencvaros and kiev. and against lokomotiv he only got one chance as he was injured for the home game. waiting for the 'mental gymnastics' comments now :p

CL against ferencvaros and kiev? nah brah, that's EL :coffee:

all competitions, but suarez was not playing in 2 of them. that's why i feel that stat is thrown in just to get bites. i mean, what is the purpose of this comparison?

we counting goals/assists in supercopa now :lol: doesn't make any sense. and initial discussion was about league performance, based on that whoscored team of the year.

don't know why y'all so happy about being bait for juventus so that the fat rat makes more money

Defense won't improve with the same personnel. Koeman can only help them trough tactics, but otherwise he can't do much. And he is not the type of manager to improve or teach players in their mid twenties or thirties new skills. Pep or Bielsa can do that.

Wondering how many key passes MAtS has :coffee:

Seems like even there money has dried up. Haven't heard about any big transfers over there, in the last year.

Actually even JamDav doesn't know but sounds fancy. Curious where are these numbers posted. To me it seems like times a player passes to Messi and inshala. As that's what Pedri, FDJ or Griezmann currently do.

Bar?a currently rely on Busquets to orchestrate from deep. Don't know if that's what Koeman wants or not, but it's reality. And FDJ or Wijnaldum aren't doing that.

Plus the washed-up never been plays mostly in FDJ's position. Another half a season of fucking around with 3-4 formations and playing FDJ around, onky to revert to 352