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But even the manager came out and said we poorly executed in the closing minutes, so that's not even a worthwhile conversation anymore

It doesn't matter that your booming forward with a 1 goal lead & 3 minutes left in a game, with your entire defense above the half way line and poorly positioned. Yea okay That's something all other managers do in that situation.

Better players make a difference sure, in the right setup, we've seen good players look poor in one system & great in another. Flick system leaves defenders exposed like no other I've ever seen. We talk about the araujo error, won't go back into that, but my post then with the edited screen...

The second sentence is what I've been saying and have come to accept, that's just his nature, he's had 3 jobs and they all have a few things in common High octane attacking football and leaky defense's. Just accept it and stop whining about CBs who would make a difference, they won't. If...

PS the fact that flick values Garcia passing more than Christensen defending, is a flick problem. I have no issues with him benching Araujo a player I like I have no issues with him placing Garcia at RB over kounde another player I like given his slow start to the season. But no self...

Okay you're talking about this season Fair enough

Lol funny but true

I would sacrifice Torres from the start, if he picks up an injury no big deal. Rashford fermin yamal Torres

All?

McLaren fumbling this would be crazy. And max would deserve all the credit in the world.

He's been more than average But the entire team has been below last seasons level.

How much?

A keeper is indeed the key to flicks defense, the club & him identified the right issue this summer. A GK that can make saves not CBs, because that's a hopeless situation with his tactics. Damn. Near every team no matter how poor they are can get at least two clean cut chance against us...

He has too many big money players to fit in to worry about this guy even though he's been in good form

@khaled_a_d You just can't have such a poor take on a player like zubi, which is been a constant take by the way & then proceed to tell us with the most confidence what his qualities are and what he can & can't excel at I'm sorry I wasn't going to make that one slide, which is why I brought...

Our defenders and keepers did more than enough stepping up in the CL last season, but no defender outside of flicks system is asked to do it 10x times per game, with half the field behind them. No your attempted point is mute.

At no point did I say you said he was a good defensive manager, so that calcification wasn't needed. I said you claimed he needed a certain profile of defenders to make his system work, he has those defenders at Bayern & keeper and it didn't work. I won't address your point about Alaba &...

How is saying you walked away personal? It's a fact that whenever your opinion is weighed and found wanting, you go silent and act as if you don't have time for the discussion, when the truth is your point has been found wanting. See the discussion about Zubi, LOL. I made a mistake; you needed...

Nah you didn't, you had no come back & walked away Flick needs better defenders, when I confronted you with his Bayern defense & their record, complete silence, because the facts don't back your argument. But here you are trying to land a point on exactly how long, diarra was signed lol

Relax he has injuries and the players are tired, but we'll turn it around. Fans have been whining about his defense with Bayern, Germany and now Barca he won't change & better CBs won't improve the situation. We just need to caught our 2nd wind soon