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CR is not a number 10, fantasist, creator, build up, key passes,...typical numer 10. Messi is a number 9 (score goals) and a number 10 (fantasist). CR only a number 9.

Ok, in this case it seems that Messi was not so good as he looked. He did not deserve to be consider maybe the goat, he is only smoke and mirror, his capabilities have been overestimated.

In term of goals for sure. CR is in front "only" for score goals, not Messi. Build up, key passes, assists, create chances... this is the addional Job that Messi has, but not CR. For exemple, no one come closed to Messi (where ist CR ?)...

Messi had a fantastic saison not so long ago (2018/19, only 1 year ago, not 2015 or 2010) and he won his 6. golden ball, do you remember ? you talk about him as if he were an old wreck we forgot to scrap For the rest, I agree with Blugrana1987: QUOTE Messi was by far and away best player...

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Unfortunately this is probably the case.... Griezmann Couthino Dembele, approx 400Mio., what a dream trio !:facepalm::wacko: Klopp with 400mio would put together a CL winning team.

I really hope that the the future of barca is NOT Coutinho and Griezmann:wacko:, better messi-dependencia

For sure numbers will drop, because unfortunately without Iniesta and Xavi, Messi had to compensate the lack or creativity of our midfield (the same would happen with statistic goals of CR, he is the main target of Juve and he was for RM). But not for the quality of his assists and chances...

The numbers of goals, assists, key passes, big chances created,...of Messi are also deeply disturbing... and automatically raise a question: how is possible with such unbelievable, fantastic, not human statistics, that the team had only won 4 CL in the last 15 years? If you did not know that he...

wow !! and what a goals.... the 7-2 and 8-2 decisive goals at 85th and 89th minutes !!! Coutinho > Messi

He needs a change with 33 y.o. ? why not ritire ? i agree he's sick and tired of bartomeu, but i think he want still play because his target is WC 2022

to the fans ?!?! he's under contract with barcelona. when everything is clear and finalised with the club, he will address to the fans if he wants.

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If it will be so, that's good for him and the team. That mean that finally (unlike barca and argentina) it was understood to use him as an added lethal weapon to the team, not as only reference for the team.

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You forgot to mention CR/Juve.

It's true, but in the end only 1 wins, therefore nearly all are chokers (expansive or not). Not easy to win. I think we won 4 CL in 15 years, not so bad.

Suarez and Griezmann... out as soon as possible.