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He's definitely a top player no doubt. But don't you in comparison to the very elite CBs his pure defending abilities fall short? Ofc He's terrific on the ball.

It's not a competition. There's no prize. 😂 Your insecurity is so obvious. I'm not trying to win. I'm just having a civilized discussion and putting my case forward. If I start actually trolling you, you'll start crying. So calm down. I'm not looking for a fight.

I didn't even deny that the system has made them look better. But its called a natural career trajectory.

They hardly got game time under Mourimho and were part of an inflated squad. They weren't starters who becane a meme due to poor performances. Don't misuse my definitions. 😂

Buddy, you are taking the phrase "system player" way too badly. It's not even that bad. Nothing wrong with it. Chill. 😂 What I mean is you can't ignore Pique's obvious weakness 1 on 1.

Mane and Salah were both very good at Southampton and Roma but yeah Klopp took them to a whole new level. KDB? Hell no. He's a complete player whose individual brilliance is obvious. Belgium and Wolfsburg performances showed his class.

Jordan Henderson is just a good player and great leader. Not even close to world class. Never will be. Just doesn't have the ability. So you're totally right. I'm not the kinda fan who blindly bigs up his players and talks BS about their abilities. Unlike people here, I don't get touchy...

Can see Pique as a future president and stuff ngl.

Literally enlisted Barca players you love who are not that dependent on systems as much. But sure, this is the standard reply when you have zero answers to facts provided. Don't engage because you don't have the ability to.

To different degrees. Even after Barce became more free style Messi still excelled for a long time. Individual brilliance shining through. Alves played in numerous clubs with different systems and still succeeded. Xabi Alonso was a key player for Mourinho, Benitez, Guardiola. Countless...

Expose Prime Pique to a bit of pace and he'll routinely shit the bed.

2 Euros and 1 World Cup? Yeah in a team which was famous for Tiki Taka. The exact same shit that guy's club Barca used to play. Definition of a system player. There's a reason why Pique became a meme once Barca lost that strict philosophy and becane more free style comparatively. The...

So was a certain Victor Valdes.....

Whenever someone talks about loyalty for clubs like Real or Barca I always laugh my ass off. You're literally in sunny Spain getting ludicrous salaries whilst competing for top honours along with supreme clout in the media. Pretty easy staying loyal to Real/Barca. There are players who have got...

Can Barca fans put a finger on any particular player they wanna buy as the long term Busquets replacement??? Have our in-forum "experts" identified any players to keep an eye on for this role??

One of the most overrated defenders I have seen in my lifetime. His reputation is so heavily carried by the Barca system it's unreal. Very good on the ball though, since his United days. I'd take Godin, Chiellini, Bonucci, etc above this guy. Apart from the more obvious ones from this...

Sure, but if you're picking a player like Eric Garcia in this, you're definitely just bantering him.

The Tottenham board have been long term admirers of Martial. I know that for a fact.

Just saw the guy picked Eric fucking Garcia and Ter Stegen in the Classico all time. Surely he's taking the piss??

United are looking to do a cash plus Martial deal for Harry Kane this upcoming window!!