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Sepp Maier probably is. Martinez has been brilliant though and will go down in history.

That was borderline bullying of him by the Ronaldo fanboys. Now that it looks so bleak for Ronaldo, they (I don't mean Fati here) say people should appreciate both - after destroying Messi in the past :lol:

Nice one mate on the playing as a youngster, glad you enjoyed. Glad you mostly avoided injuries. I have had some back pain from playing, it isn't easy to deal with.

Exactly, there are far more talented and better all-round players, but as a moments player at Real Madrid he has life on easy mode. He will be successful regardless because their players and the way they play hides his deficiencies, like it did the second half of last season. Astute post and...

Have you played much football yourself? Doesn't have to be at a decent level, just curious if you play? You can talk about experiences if you like.

Going back to the past - people talk about 2014, but one overlooked tournament just before Messi hit his prime is Germany 2006. I remember it well as it was just after I first got the internet in the house and began communicating online. Argentina were the best team in that tournament, with...

Thought that. You definitely can make that argument. He was very influential for Holland in the 70s, when he and Michels implemented total football. Then he brought the philosophy to Barca, and revolutionised the club and influenced all of its modern legends such as Guardiola, Laudrup, Xavi...

You mean can? I assume 'can't' is a typo.

He's brilliant but headlines like 'Maradona, Messi, now Yamal' are putting too much pressure on him, lol. The boy just turned 17 on Saturday.

Yeah thought that myself. Feel he could have saved it, probably should have.

He had major demons and did some unspeakable things (especially in terms of domestic abuse etc), but speaking purely as a footballer, he's the only player I have ever seen who I'd say was as talented as Messi. The guy was an alien and if you ever play football, please watch him play on some...

If you combine ability as a player with ability as a manager, he's the greatest of all time.

To be fair that's tame by a red top tabloid's standards, lol.

That's what I meant, he's not a controlling midfielder like Kroos. I am not sure I agree on IQ - I think he makes a lot of poor decisions on the park. But it's opinions. Anyway, I am more restrained about him than many, but that is more because I am disdainful of his PR. He is a quality player...

The worst thing would be he aims for the World Cup but is in major decline by then, and hinders Argentina. Of course a second World Cup would be sensational for him, but he has nothing left to prove. He could go out on top.

Agree on England's players and coach. To be honest it's a bit harsh of me to have a wee dig at Spurs as they haven't really done anything wrong. As far as top six teams go they are harmless I suppose. It's just more their underachievement parallels England's, almost to the year (Tottenham last...

I wonder how he feels about all this attention. What his mentality is like. He is on the start of an epic journey. Like other young players, do they feel excited, nervous? Do they have any fear about their careers not panning out as they hope, or does the exuberance and innocence of youth mean...

Carrying that about every day could turn you into Arnie.

He will be hungry.

The Copa trophy is a big unit, isn't it.