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This isn't so much off topic as pissed all over the topic. I suppose it isn't THAT much of a stretch to go from olympic sport to guy climing eiffel tower to extreme sports. But you bringing up serial killers is dark lol.

Yeah, they're weird. I don't think they fear being put to death, but they do everything to avoid being caught. It's a weird contradiction. Maybe, as I say, they just wanna beat the police and go as long as possible as they can to kill as many people as they can.

So you might be asking, if they don't have feelings or empathy, how do they get a thrill from murder? No idea to be honest. maybe it's that lack of empathy that causes it. With them a lot of it is sexual too.

I always agreed, to some extent. Well, psychopaths have no empathy, or feeling generally. So I would suggest they don't fear getting caught (even if they wanna stay out of prison as it's a game to them). They probably have no fear of capital punishment and being sentenced to death either. I am...

I agree with that and sort of made the same point myself. I agree with all you say. I said you can expose yourself gradually, but eventually you have to take a massive leap of faith. You can maybe practice tightrope walking as high as a few stories, or even 6 or 7. But nothing prepares you for...

I agree that there must be at least a little fear to produce the adrenaline rush of 'beating the risk' in extreme sports. Otherwise why do it? They wouldn't feel the rush of prevailing if there was no fear in the first place. maybe for guys like Petit, there's no fear and he did it just to show...

Yeah, getting players more comfortable with the ball, removing their nerves about playing in front of thousands and millions on TV. Maybe the best example is the penalty shootout. They practice it but can never replicate the nerves of the actual shootout in front of millions. Like rock climbers...

There must have been, because you asked that question literally to Horatio. I was surprised you asked it because as you say, it's a captain obvious take. Maybe you meant it sarcastically and rhetorically to Horatio.

True, it's a different type of fear though. It's a fear of failure, rather than a fear that is converted to adrenaline and a deep rush at being able to scale a wall or sky dive. I guess in those extreme sports the 'fear of failure' has an incentive of not dying lol.

Rock climbing, sky diving, tightrope walking are a bit different. They're sports where you can literally die if you don't have talent lol. Obese Mike off the street isn't gonna die if he plays a game of football. Other than maybe a heart attack because he's too fat.

No, he means that everyone can improve within their own potential and personal limit, be the best they can be, if they work hard. Nobody can be Messi with hard work. But they can be the best version of themselves. For some that is still rubbish, for others it takes them from average to good...

It was something that I overlooked til you mentioned it, but it makes sense. Minus fear, the adrenaline rush and thrill of 'beating the risk' wouldn't be there anyway. Because without fear, there is no risk to them. Unless they feel no fear and the 'fear' is death rather than the activity...

I know, I am agreeing with you. I made two posts there that basically agree with you. It's that old thing about extreme talent being the best, but you still need to be professional and put the work in. If Messi sat on his arse eating pizza all day he'd still be great but it would give clowns...

I agree though that they feel a lot less fear naturally than most humans, the same way Messi is better with a ball than all humans. Whether they feel NO fear? Well you'd have to ask them that. And they probably don't know themselves if they felt it when they started out as they're so used to...

Obviously talent is the overriding factor. These daredevils had to be good at what they did too, as well as Messi being the best. Otherwise they'd fall at the first hurdle, quite literally. But as Horatio says, practice fine tunes that extreme talent further.

The fine line between pleasure and pain. Same thought process as BDSM and all that stuff. Thrillseekers.

Yeah fair point and overlooked. I guess they can practice with harnesses until they feel confident enough at that height, and then repeat. Not sure if that is their process but would make sense. I still don't know how any amount of practice prepares you for climbing cliffs, jumping out of...

I think video games are more of an 'entertainment' excitement than a 'thrill' excitement. It's not the same sort of adrenaline rush. Exposure therapy is it, but still, when you think about it, it's some leap (no pun intended) from going from a few feet high, to 10 feet, to a few stories of a...

True, but how do you get 'conditioned' or used to it anyway? I guess you start with small-scale heights and stuff, and then progress as you get more confident. Exposure therapy. On a smaller scale it's similar to how guys and girls learn to try the pole vault, which also looks a scary activity...

Haha. And probably, it's funny that eh that people can do amazing daredevil activities but are probably scared of stuff normal people take in their stride. Like you say, they're built differently.