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The difference is those three clubs have the performances in recent seasons to back that up. man United do not. I can't believe I have to explain this.

That's just your opinion. They finished 8th last season, haven't kicked a ball this season. They have brought in some guys with ownership as referenced above but yet to be seen if they are gonna make a big difference. What makes you confident they're on the up? Don't say winning a cup. It...

Nah I predict them to struggle most seasons. Winning a cup isn't the same as league football - teams can fluke a cup. Like finishing 8th and winning it like last season. Already covered 2nd - De Gea heroics and COVID season. You guys must be the only guys on the planet who don't think Man...

Based on what do they have better ownership? These guys haven't done anything yet, Berrada, Wilcox, Brailsford, Ashworth. They could quite easily fuck it all up.

I am being kind with 5th. A lot of their fans are predicting 3rd. If they truly implode it could easily be 8th again. But like I say they have this supernatural ability to pick up more points than they deserve. Even in seasons they fall apart completely they never finish lower than mid-table...

I have told you, cup finals mean fuck all in doing well in the league. In the 80s they were a cup team and nowhere in the league. They got some second places they didn't deserve due to De Gea heroics (remember what Mourinho said about it being his biggest achievement getting second) and I think...

Proven right on saying they'll be an embarrassment most seasons since Ferguson left. Even seasons they thought they were gonna challenge for the title. Last August they believed they were ready to take the step to title challengers cos they finished third. I predicted tears. They ended up 8th...

We have had this debate before - it wasn't his great tactical play that won them the Cup Final. City were hungover, United scored from a mistake from a long ball, thena beautiful second goal. The second half they sat back and let City have the ball and invited them to break them down. Either...

Being a flukey cup team is completely different to doing well in the league. They were a cup team in the 80s too and got nowhere near the title for the entire decade. We'll see, personally I am not a fan of any of those players. I see no reason to think those players are gonna turn them into a...

Well we will see. I go by what I think of the player. I don't really care what Man United fans or Bayern fans think. Ultimately they are a mix of different people with different opinions, like you and I are. Some Bayern fans being upset to lose De Ligt proves nothing, and definitely doesn't...

Anyway if you are looking for another four hour disagreement/argument, absolutely fuck that. Let's stick to our own beliefs and we will see how the season goes.

Yeah but if you read the Redcafe forums loads of their fans were in favour too. Plus their matchgoing fans are lemmings who supported him generally. The point is he was clearly not the right man from day one. A wet lettuce like him even getting the job in the first place was ridiculous. Was...

This is a fanbase who debated for THREE YEARS and thousands of pages whether Ole was the right man, when it was obvious to anyone with a brain he was clueless and a total charisma vacuum from the day he became manager. Why would you listen to anything their moronic fans say?

He's awful, getting rid of him is a good thing yes. They've mugged off West Ham. But they spent years arguing he was good enough on their sites. It was obvious to me he was poor before he even signed. Shows how deluded they are. This has all the makings of the Pogba summer of 2016. Think...

De Ligt and Mazraoui confirmed. This has the makings of a great season for us ABUs. Strong chance it all ends in catastrophe.

Rangers out of the CL. I don't care about Rangers, but I must say Philippe Clement might be an even worse manager than Michael Beale - was so obvious he was absolutely clueless from day 1. The board at Rangers is terrible, and so are the players. Clueless managers are the last thing they need...

Yeah that is an excellent point too I think. Smart, technical players can get away with more due to their natural gifts. It would be far from ideal, but he'd obviously lose far less of a step from three years away from Europe than Ferran Torres, for example.

Fair point that about starting up where you left off. and the lack of ambition and money grabbing in the ps

I asked similar. Could be some bollocks rumour from a tabloid.

Obviously there will be some decent ones. I can think of one or two. But there are loads of clueless British pundits. I think it's a lack of brains and analytical skills, as well as knowledge of other leagues. As for why so many clubs, big and small, make clearly bad decisions (anyone off the...