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Oh I see, I read it as "3rd choice" and was like, uhh... But even still, 2nd choice backup is still basically nothing. That's the role Vermaelen has and he's pretty much useless to the team.

Glad to hear that. He's got potential.

That's pretty funny. He's, at best, 5th choice. With Mathieu injured I guess that's now 4th choice. Seeing people constantly overstate his position in the hierarchy is something I never understood. I remember Jamdav once vehemently arguing that Bartra was 2nd choice, for the RCB spot. Two...

Sounds like Liverpool would be perfect. Mignolet is by all accounts a terrible keeper who needs replacing if Liverpool wants to even dream of becoming elite again, and even if Mats only stays for one season, finding a replacement after he goes would be wiser than going back to Mingolet. Bravo...

He'll be back in basically September having not played and totally out of match rhythm and the club is planning on buying a new CB this summer already. And unless he quits the smokes cold turkey the cigs will probably have an even larger role to play in his lack of fitness, only magnifying his...

So this gives us two problems: 1) Our only decent backup CB is now on the shelf, probably for the season. We now have to rely on Bartra or Vermaelen. I personally prefer Bartra out of the two, as he's at least played well for us in the past. 2) As bad as he is at LB, he's at least capable of...

But... Why? It's the same shit every single summer. If Bartra somehow lets the club convince him to ride the bench as 5th/6th choice (They still want to sign another CB, after all) he's even dumber than I think he is, and that's saying something.

That salt is fucking delicious. And it's right after whooping their asses so all they can say is "You're on the bench" even though he's not. Although he probably should be...

Hard to see him being content with another season like this, especially if they're not even going to assure him of his future here. If he wasn't trusted it wouldn't really make sense for him to be the CL and Copa keeper. With the exception of the odd group stage game all of those are must-wins...

Almost as likely as Alvaro Arbeloa scoring a hat trick.

Roberto is better and Rafinha before his injury was playing better than Arda is now. Not to mention Denis made Arda look like a total chump in comparison.

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If it meant I could play consistently, yes. Adriano is one of the most successful players in history, trophy-wise, but he's not having much fun out on the pitch, considering he's rarely out there.

That's a rather dramatic change of opinion for you. You do realize keeping him will most likely lead to age discrimination (Your words), right?

Bravo is not "Much" better. If he's better at all it's marginal at best, especially if you consider that Bravo is playing much more often and much more consistently. The odds are actually stacked against Mats, as receiving such inconsistent playing time would be a good reason for his form to...

So getting tired of two seasons not playing consistently when you're a multi title winning keeper with limited minutes is not having "One iota of patience"? How long do you expect him to wait? One more season? Two? Until Bravo retires? How absurd. There's a difference between "Fighting spirit"...

I like how "He's proven in La Liga" and "He plays for the team you're supposed to love" are the primary arguments you're using. His accomplishments with Atletico don't mean Jack's hit to the best team in the world and if even Messi can get attacked Arda Turan is faaaaar from being safe.

I'm impressed he's lasted this long. I'd have packed up and left in January of the first season if I joined a club and found myself immediately benched.

What are you saying? 15-0. A Munir double super hat trick has to be in there somewhere.

I say bring him in if we lose Alves. Roberto is needed everywhere and we don't have another RB on the squad really.