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Nice to see some love for Garrincha. I got told off by a certain someone for rating him highly and told he couldn't lace Henry's boots.

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Aye I remember him in his young days too, pre 2000 and the Parma time too. He played against Rangers in a tie or two in the late 90s (when I still supported Rangers) and he was so good. He was exceptional. Just a very well-rounded goalkeeper. I don't like the guy, as he was a bigot before he...

He or Oliver Kahn probably.

Agree fully on Platini being better than Zidane (and Zizou was a childhood idol of mine). They say the same in France. I don't rate Van Basten as quite number 1 Euro player of all time, probably still rate Cruyff ahead of him for Dutch. But he's right up there. As you say he had everything almost.

I will do top 5 GK ever imo, to start ball rolling for positions. Based on evidence of watching live games and/or footage, and reading about them and seeing other opinion. No particular order: Neuer Zoff Banks Yashin Unsure of number 5 really. Could be several candidates. Maybe Buffon.

Hagi and Stoitchkov were supreme.

Great list and good knowledge for a top 20. Surprised there's no Garrincha though. George Best could maybe get in based on talent, if not longevity and achievement. Other possible candidates off the top of my head: Rivelino, Gerson, Didi, Socrates, Passarella, Henry (despite what I said...

What you could do is seperate it into loose positions (goalkeeper, defender, midfielder, forward) and pick out a top five/twenty for each. Defensive players tend to get the shaft in these anyway so it would give them more recognition. Like top 5 GK Top 20 DF Top 20 DM/CM/AM Top 20...

Amazing goal to be fair. Deserved for that I'd say although there might be other goals people like.

Respect Soul's opinions on all things football but not a fan of this boy at all. Too brainless and lacking in technique too. In his head he's prime Cristiano Ronaldo, though. Maybe he will improve, he's only 20. But I get the impression he's an arsehole.

I'm really not a fan of Ferguson as a manager or a man at all, for many reasons. One thing that makes me laugh about his achievements though is clueless modern fans saying 'he beat Real Madrid with fucking Aberdeen!'. It was pre-Bosman days - back then Real Madrid were nowhere near as good as...

You're welcome. Good luck with it - there is a plethora of resources online and in printed form, and in video analysis etc. Football is big business. Just remember to take into account the worth or validity of the source. I would just create a new thread if you wanna discuss the top 20/50 of...

Yeah hope he will be alright. This sort of thing is becoming more common isn't it? Or maybe we just heard about it less in the past.

Like I say, he's obviously a brilliant player, I am probably too harsh on him at times because of my distaste for him. But it just feels 'wrong' based on my football experience, playing and watching, to rate him on Messi's level, or Maradona and Pele. I don't know how to explain it but i just...

I was replying to the other person too. MDub94.

He's obviously been a brilliant player, but the things I said are very reasonable - Messi being miles better ins tuff like passing and dribbling. Also, I feel you are actually overrating him here - you talk like he guarantees titles. He was always gonna win La Liga as he was at Real Madrid for...

Seeing as this was bumped, I came across this debate again, and every time I see people say 'let's appreicate both' or even worse, that Ronaldo is better, in relation to this guy, it just becomes apparent that football fans are a lost cause. This Ronaldo-Messi debate severely flatters the...

where do I simp for Liverpool? How many times have I told you I don't like them as a club, would rather Barca, Dortmund, Brighton and so on destroyed them. I simply prefer them to United, probably City, and Arsenal. That isn't the same as liking them. I hated them for many years because of my...

Can't be bothered arguing anymore mate but ok.