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The guy was an extra terrestrial in terms of football talent. As talented as Messi I'd say, - the only player in history who could realistically claim that (if he was still alive) - though obviously had a worse career all things considered.

You sure? I normally remember most of these things. I could have sworn he played that night, I watched it live but it was 11 years ago. If he didn't then I retract that oversight.

They're not actual 'hardcore' football fans then. They follow football like I follow tennis. They probably have a very rudimentary, superifical knowledge of the game's history and tactics. Not saying I am David Goldblatt either, but I like to think I have researched more than the average bear...

Yeah it was a good spot by me lol. I am quite good at that if I may say so myself - seeing contradictions in people's arguments and pointing them out. I could retort the rest of what you have written, but I already covered it above. Plus I don't wanna argue with you as you are one of the...

I don't necessarily mean Neymar. I know loads of great pro players have zero clue about the history of the game. I am more referring to fans who think they are hardcore football men yet are making excuses about not knowing a famous player like Hagi. Fans don't have Neymar's excuse of dedicating...

And again, Messi has loads of good games where he doesn't score. He has scored fewer CL Finals goals than Ronaldo, but all three of his finals piss all over all 6 of Ronaldo's performance-wise (sans maybe 2017 for Ronaldo). There's also other examples like Messi playing at the Etihad that time...

Lol it's desperate times when you bring up a penalty in a shootout after a game he was abysmal in. Also this is what I am talking about - you are talking up Ronaldo for 2014 final - ffs he was the worst player on the pitch, finally found his bollocks when the game was over in the 120th minute...

True, I was just replying to malvolio. Different position and styles of player but Greenwood much more talented than rashford for me.

Came across this from a decade ago - Neymar not knowing who Gheorge Hagi is Fair enough Neymar is ten years younger than me and couldn't watch the 1994 World Cup live (Hagi's biggest worldwide exposure) like I did, as he was only two, but anyone with the remotest interest in football history...

I get your point, I really do, but excuses like that made for them is what allows the parasitical United players to survive. They know they can play rubbish and people will just blame the coaches, or how rotten the club is. At some point there has to be some accountability for their own...

I think he has already peaked. The treble season was his peak in goalscoring and trophy winning. He's reliant on athleticism and will likely decline early. Let's be honest, he's awful technically outside the box. Plus he doesn't fit their team still.

Table updated - 19th in UK and 50th in world. Top 0.068 percent in world. Hopefully I can maintain this til end of season but a massive ask. This is by far the most popular club league or tournament on the site

Welcome to the forum Richard.

Yeah this dull obsession with 'goaL StATs' modern fans have is a sure sign of not understanding the game or never playing it. Any idiot can count up stats on the internet - actually analysing and dissecting a game takes insight. I have never been a fan of these robotic, boring scorers or stats...

He's a limited midfielder and player in general, but he's good at getting into the box and scoring goals a decent amount from midfield. Conte is playing to his strengths. Time will tell if he will sustain it.

Imo Greenwood is a lot more talented than Rashford and a youunger investment, but obviously comes with all that 'baggage'.

They've played in 4 of the last 7 World Cup Finals. They have built up a pedigree and should be in the mix again. At least Quarter Finals and likely further if they reach 80 percent of their potential (QF is more impressive than usual given the extra knockout round)

Messi was MOM in three CL Finals he played in, or very close to it in 2009 (he or Xavi or Iniesta). Ronaldo on the other hand was rank rotten in all of the 2009, 2014, 2016 and 2018 finals. And not that great in 2008 besides his goal. Those stats never tell the full story because Ronaldo often...

Agree, They were gonna be masters of the multiverse.

They won 13 of the first 21 PL titles, under Ferguson. But they played perfect football for that era. They are a dino club - they have failed to adapt to modern football. Amusingly, what fucked them the most was Pep's Barca. Not only were they completely inadequate against them in the two...