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    10 - Lionel Messi - v5

    Because none of them are deserved. He starts winning Ballon D'ors every year while declining as a footballer.
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    10 - Lionel Messi - v5

    Messi has been the best player in the world since 2008 (when Ronaldo was). He had a fairly big dip in 2014 and I don't think Ronaldo was great that year either. He was useless at the World Cup and bailed out in CL final by Ramos and Atleti won the league. Ronaldo having 6 ballon d'ors after...
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    10 - Lionel Messi - v5

    Ronaldo was generally shit at the Euros and didn't even play the final when the team won it without him. 2009-2013 - Messi 2014 - Neuer 2015-2018 - Messi yet he's got 6 Ballon Dor's now as don't even kid yourself they aren't winning CL. It's a never ending nightmare. 2014 the only year since...
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    10 - Lionel Messi - v5

    2014 Ronaldo did nothing at the World Cup and Atleti won the league. He won it because of Ramos and Higuain.
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    10 - Lionel Messi - v5

    Real win CL and he'll have to win World Cup to pip Ronaldo to it this year..
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    10 - Lionel Messi - v5

    Ballon D'or probably already gone but last chance for a big splash in the club season to end on a high after the misery of Madrid with the CL again and the Roma hangover.
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    10 - Lionel Messi - v5

    he's at his best when he's rested in preparation for a big game. he's not tired then or saving his legs and goes full throttle. CL finals for example.
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    10 - Lionel Messi - v5

    Nobody cares about Copa Del Ray. Unfortunately CL far and away supersedes LA Liga too. Ballon Dor already touted as a shoot out between Ronaldo and Salah in CL final. whoever wins that game if Liverpool go through. Beyond that itd take Messi winning the World Cup which is as realistic as Salah...
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    Champions League 2017/18

    That's another thing. The defensive mistakes teams make against them at this the highest level is sunday league stuff.
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    Champions League 2017/18

    It'd be one thing watching them win the CL again if they were just a brilliant team but they aren't even that good. They are unbeatable in a knockout tie though.
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    10 - Lionel Messi - v5

    Even with the squad we have you can rotate smartly. The Copa Del Ray did not need to have the A team playing right through Jan and Feb, not before the semi finals at least. It's only in recent seasons we've really prioritised the Copa and it's hurting us in CL. If you're playing Leganes at home...
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    10 - Lionel Messi - v5

    I think one of the things he's struggled with in international tournaments is the games come thick and fast and he's exhausted by the time of the final, especially when the semi finals have gone all the way to pens a few days earlier (Holland 2014). Plus all the travelling involved between...
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    10 - Lionel Messi - v5

    Barca were slaughtered in Rome because Messi didn't perform, the rest of the team were hopeless as well against Chelsea but Messi pulled them through. Ronaldo could be awful at Bayern but the team still won and scored 2 good away goals.
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    Champions League 2017/18

    This whole nightmare started with that 15/16 season where Real were in a real mess and you got the gift of Wolfsburg (who you struggled to beat in the quarters) and then an awful Man City in the semis who couldn't even get forward to create a single chance in 180 minutes and scored Real's 1 goal...
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    Champions League 2017/18

    We win the Copa every year while they win the CL every year and don't give a shit about the Copa. I was mocked on here for saying why laugh at the Leganes defeat because they're going to win the CL again as that's all they're interested in this season. The club has gone small time again and...
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    Champions League 2017/18

    All three teams have gifted it to them with defensive howlers and missed sitters. They barely had to work for most of the goals
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    Champions League 2017/18

    goes back to Pep trying to be too clever in 2014.
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    Champions League 2017/18

    Bayern playin like tbe Chelsea final in 2012. They know whatever they do they can't win.
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    Champions League 2017/18

    same thing these days. domestic leagues don't seem to matter anymore compared to CL.
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    Champions League 2017/18

    they'll win more than 3 in a row. this should have been Peps legacy 09-12. now they'll go down as the best ever.

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