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  1. Maradona37

    Kylian Muppet

    Michael Laudrup was a playmaker I would say, but could get assists too. I honestly don't think it is. I think it's his style of play. He looks for the final ball every time and has been the same under three or four managers now. I just think he's a frantic chaos merchant. His short game is...
  2. Maradona37

    Kylian Muppet

    I did think about KDB, and Ozil is a good shout too. I think they're more hybrids - they are more about cutting edge than full blown playmaker like D Silva, Ribery or Iniesta, but they're not just focused fully on chance creation as Fernandes tends to be (well De Bruyne isn't anyway).
  3. Maradona37

    Kylian Muppet

    Maybe I was harsh calling him one dimensional. I can concede maybe I was hasty. But I think it's fair to say he's less into th general play than Neymar, Hazard, Ribery.
  4. Maradona37

    Kylian Muppet

    The latter much more,. Someone who keeps the play going, is great on the half-turn, dribbles well in tight spaces to open space, links up well does 'good intelligent footballer' thing throughout the 90. David Silva, Iniesta, Hazard, Neymar types. I wouldn't call a chance creator a playmaker...
  5. Maradona37

    Kylian Muppet

    'In modern sense where folk extend it to attackers term is basically 'setting players up'' No it isn't. I even told you two or three times that assisting isn't playmaking.
  6. Maradona37

    Kylian Muppet

    Wingers can definitely be playmakers. Even if you think I am giving Salah more credit in that realm than he deserves, others have been mentioned.
  7. Maradona37

    9 - Robert Lewandowski

    Yeah people say 'how can he win it with that Portugal team?' (though his Portugal team-mates were always underrated as an excuse for him. But that is a strawman. He doesn't have to win it, just do well. Forlan, Modric, Rodriguez, Hagi, Stoitchkov and varius others have all done well with...
  8. Maradona37

    Kylian Muppet

    That's what I mean. His passes are pretty basic and happen in the final third. He doesn't thread balls through eyes of needles or anything. People say Salah can't do anything from deep. Last night he played a lovely pass through to Nunez from his own half. It wasn't amazing but it was nice and...
  9. Maradona37

    Cristiano Ronaldo

    Only if he is paying, the tight cunt.
  10. Maradona37

    Kylian Muppet

    Exactly, he's not a playmaker. This is weird with people acting like he's a playmaker extraordinaire because he gets assists...
  11. Maradona37

    Kylian Muppet

    You are simplifying and strawmanning what i said, but ok. I am tired from constant debate today anyway, so we will leave it there. Especially if you are just gonna make snarky comments.
  12. Maradona37

    Kylian Muppet

    The point I am making is that he clearly can dribble very well at his best, and that he has that brilliant pass in his locker, to an extent Vini doesn't, even if his game changes across the years.
  13. Maradona37

    Cristiano Ronaldo

    Fair enough, agree with bits and pieces and disagree with others, I respect the effort you put in and you do make some good, well-backed points so have allocated a like but cba arguing about it. All I have done today is discuss Lewa, Ronaldo and Vini. I am all debated out almost :lol:
  14. Maradona37

    Kylian Muppet

    Also, have I even insulted him as a player? I said he's one of the best players in the world I said his game is quite repetitive and he has less playmaking quality than Neymar, Hazard and Salah. What is wrong with that? It is likely the truth. :lol:
  15. Maradona37

    Kylian Muppet

    :lol: You are clearly looking for a fight, or have a love for Vini. By less dimensional, I just meant those other players have more ability in general play, the same way Ribery did. I never said Vinicius is poor at it, just that he's rather repetitive and his game is mostly about pace...
  16. Maradona37

    Cristiano Ronaldo

    He was invisible in most of his CL finals and didn't score in some semis too. Again, as I said, some other games he scored when ties were finished. We all watched the games mate and have the records, you cannot deny it. That's a rookie mistake. A lot of what leads to shooting and chances...
  17. Maradona37

    Kylian Muppet

    I mentioned Salah originally, it was Tempt who brought up neymar. Either way, I maintain that Neymar, Hazard and Salah have more layers to their games than Vini and Mbappe, and I think you'd have to have lost the plot to disagree. I never said they 'ain't it'. You have reading comprehension...
  18. Maradona37

    Cristiano Ronaldo

    I have watched him a lot. He can't put in an 'insane performance' without scoring. That's one of the key differences between he and Messi. He's far more reliant on stats to look good.
  19. Maradona37

    Cristiano Ronaldo

    'His record against big teams in CL knockouts' For example, his three goals in the semis and final of 2014 CL count as 'goals against big teams in CL knockouts'. Yet all three of them were utterly pointless.
  20. Maradona37

    Cristiano Ronaldo

    Never aaid he was a poacher - said he was the tip of the spear - not the same thing. Point is he has scored important goals, but you are pointing out how many goals he scored, and I am adding context that a lot of them were unimportant. That's a fact when you analyse them, whether you like it...

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