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10 - Lionel Messi - v5
1. Iran beats Portugal 2. Nigeria beats Iceland 3. Argentina beats Nigeria -
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Messi, Dybala, Aguero, Lo Celso, Mascherano, Banega, Otamendi are all decent -
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can't wait for December when Messi will score a hattrick against Leganes and everyone starts complaining about how he deserves Ballon D'or again -
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Let's enjoy the final 1-2 hours of Leo's legacy as GOAT -
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I wouldn't mind that 352 if Banega and Lo Celso were starting for Perez and Maza. -
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There's stats from the last World Cup and Champions League showing the same thing. Messi simply moves less than virtually any other outfield player in the world. -
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Gerard Piqué
The only point of going on Barcaforum is for meltdowns and extreme pessimism though. If you want optimism, stick to r/barca where "el presidente" is considered the best center back in the world along with Umtiti- Barca83
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It's right though, Messi's off the ball movement and workrate is not good. One of the reasons why he can't play Right Wing anymore -
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Tough to accept it when Ronaldo outshining Leo at the World Cup would cap off the wrecking of Leo's legacy. We'd also have to wait at least 8-9 months until the CL knockout rounds for him to have another chance to set things right. -
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He's trying to make everyone who's complained about Valverde and Lucho feel guilty -
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Sampaoli picking a shit lineup doesn't mean they don't have a more talented squad than Portugal -
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not officially, just "rumors" Caballero; Mercado, Otamendi, Tagliafico; Salvio, Enzo, Mascherano, Acuna; Messi, Meza; Aguero -
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Agree, Messi's work rate and off the ball movement hold him and his team back a lot. It's one of the key reasons why he can be a much better dribbler and passer than Ronaldo but still not be much ahead of him as a player in most people's eyes. -
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It's almost as if the debate isn't about which player you enjoy watching more -
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10 - Lionel Messi - v5
I think Messi is better but the gap between them is smaller than it is for a lot of the other player vs player debates that people come up with. There's Barca fans who still think Suarez is the best striker in the world and that Pique/Umtiti are the best center backs, which are much further from... -
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10 - Lionel Messi - v5
If Argentina actually use that shit 3331 formation with only 1 midfielder, Croatia will destroy them no doubt.
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