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I said for those who have minimal brain to understand that the criteria have always been best player PLUS most important player in trophy-winning teams. I never said it's the one and not the other. - And yes: Nedved robbed Henry, because he was nowhere near the level or importance of the...

Laughable decision by loser Levy Spurs 50 years without title before Ange. I wish them another 50 after Ange

0 clue again on how accounting works

You keep strawman-ing and drifting off-topic to save your ass, after being slapped in the face with Scolari's and Rivaldo's own statements... But I will give it one last try: 1) I never said Beckham carried anyone. I said him and Giggs were IMO the best players of that treble-winning UTD. Some...

Scolari had said in interviews that Rivaldo, and not Ronaldo, was the best and most valuable player for his Brazil 2002 side. The player himself had said that 2002 was his best ever year, and that the 2002 WC his best version having worked so hard that not even prime Neymar could take his spot...

I bet I am older than you. I started watching football in 1994, and I have seen all of Rivaldo since he joined Barca. You post a bicycle kick goal against UTD, as if it proves something. You cite the Ballon D Or, as a proof, while in reality it's whole point of contest, and the one that needs...

Then, they got what they deserved for such a kit crime...

Spain saved football again from terrorism, after doing it twice in the last Euro SF and F They need 1 more terrorist elimination: Martinez's Portugal led by a 40 yr old corpse

Yup. It' so frequent and so blatant nowadays that I am not even getting upset or angry anymore. Just sad. They even made Inter wear a yellow 3rd kit for no damn reason at all

See my profile pic? I have it since 2023. I was his first fan in here, before everyone that now pretends 'knew all along'

Exactly, 2002 was three years later, shortly after he was doing all the heroics with the Barca shirt that carried us in shit seasons. Rivaldo hadn't even peaked in 1999 Thanks for confirming my point without realizing...

Yeah my dude. Sure. I don't want Barca players to win, I hate them so much :lol: At this fuckn forum we have at least 20 or 30 supposedly Barca fans that twerk for every unfair Madrid CL win, and here is a clown thinking that calling for consistent Ballon D Or criteria means being an...

Happens that the criteria for Ballon D Or, or any award of that kind, have to be universal, and not specifically tailor-made for 'Barca Legends' Get a grip

There is no such combination of the two that gives always the results you want. You have to chose either of the two to be the decisive factor You say they changed it to not to always give it to Messi. Yet, in 2019, after they had changed it for that reason supposedly, they gave it to Messi and...

2021 was a strange season. Issue is that if you go by numbers and best player overall, you have to give it to Lewa If you go by important tittles, you have to give it to Joringho who won Euro and CL as pillar of both teams in the DM. At the end, they gave it to Messi for sentimental reasons...

Rivaldo actually carried barca a few years after that, when he was scoring scissors kick at the last moment against Valencia to secure UCL spot. On the contrary, the 1997-99 team under LVG was well drilled, and Rivaldo was not carrying anyone

La Liga is fine, but UTD won the treble. Can't be compared Also, I will write it again: people stop counting Copa America as an important trophy. Won by either Brazil or Argentina 95% of the times, and should not be a factor in Ballon D Or votes. Especially those years, when you had Copa...

- Beckham and Giggs were the best players of that UTD team. The ones that stood out - Messi was the best player in the world in 2010, sure. But Iniesta was top3 player in the world, won the same as Messi on club level, and scored the goal that gave his NT the World Cup. - Messi in 2021 did...

Rivaldo won jack shit though that season, while Beckham did the treble with United...

No, it always the same ambiguity: best player on the one hand, most valuable player for a team that won most important trophies on the other hand. If you see the list the last 60 years, the pendulum would always swing closer to one or the other side between years